Posted on 09/19/2007 10:11:58 AM PDT by Republicain
Well let me see. Lift the ban or allow women to act like human beings? Yep, lift the ban...
The Middle-East is stuck on 600 a.d. Think how little your pee pee must be, if you’re afraid for your wife to go out in public with her face showing.
Kinda makes you wonder what these pussies would do with 72 virgins anway.
There is no limit to the number of compromises the mudslimes will try for to advance their cancerous agenda. The Turkish military needs to smash them down with an iron fist.
How do you think the 72 virgins remain virgins??
The guys have tiny little winkies!!
Why of course, it’s obvious. I should have thought of that. :->
I don’t see how banning leads to freedom.
No, she doesn’t need a ban against veils...if she doesn’t want to wear a veil, she doesn’t!
You’re fogetting something Ari. She doesn’t have a say in this matter. In Turkey who rules the roost? And if Islam says veil, women wear veils. Go home and tell your wife she has to wear a veil. I encourage you. Do so and find freedom...
I think the ban on veils was the true provision of freedom for women.
Where women have been given the freedom to chose in the Middle-East, they have adopted western dress.
If we were talking about a society where women could decide what they wanted to wear, I would of course agree with you. Unfortunately we are not.
Women who don’t do what they are told, reap the whirlwind. And so I think the government’s move was the only solution.
Well, here's another little gem of a quote from Erdogan: "Democracy is like a bus (or streetcar); you ride it to where you want to go, then you get off."
What we're seeing here is a classic demonstration of "Al Taqqiyah" - deliberate deception to gain a tactical advantage. He will tout "democracy" just until he can fool enough Turks into voting for sharia and making Turkey another Islamic Republic. Then, bye bye democracy.
I think I see what you are trying to say but you are trying to change this religion and culture through government force and that is not going to work. They know they are muslims and eventually that will break out against the government.
that response will work better than basically saying “you’re stupid. Don’t do this or else.”
Now I’m Jewish and Jewish married women are required to cover their hair. Usually with a wig, scarf or hat. In fact, there was a time, not too long ago when all women wore a hat in public. I wouldn’t want a law banning scarfs )or long skirts and sleeves) on the premise that Jews are somehow oppressively puritanical.
I don’t think you quite get the drift of what he’s saying.
Islam’s only use for democracy and freedom is to use them as non violent tools to gain power & influence, prior to total domination. Islam is not just a religion. It is a dictated way of life. The wearing of head scarfs in Arab countries is mandatory except for visiting Female dignitaries. Right now Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan uses the Term “Freedom” to wear the Scarf. Will he call it “Freedom” later on when All Turkish women are forced to wear them? Of course not.
This is why since 1960 the Turkish Military has had to step in and replace entire political administrations about once every 10 years. They are bound by Turkish law to insure a secular Turkish government. After all A secular government is nothing more then separation of Church and state. Turkish Troops will mow down their fellow Islamic citizens in a heart beat. The Islamics know that. The break out of which you speak would be short lived at best, and the changing of religions and cultures by government force or any kind of force has been an on going thing for thousands of years in the middle east.
How do you think the so called Prophet Mohammad and Islam came to be? Islam is deception, read the Qur’an.
Is that a practice for all Jewish women Ari, or is it the practice of a certian sub-section of Jewish women? I’ve known Jewish women who didn’t cover their head.
Look Ari, you’re not beating up, raping or killing Jewish women you meet on the street who aren’t covering their heads. That’s why I wouldn’t suggest limiting your preferences at all.
Islam is not just a religion. It is a dictated way of life.
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so the response would then be to dictate right back at them. You’d have to get rid of the premise that muslims can live under a democracy, secular or islamic.
Headscarf is a political statement in that country.
“You’d have to get rid of the premise that muslims can live under a democracy, secular or islamic.”
Absolutely!
it has yet to be proven. There is a reason why all predominately Muslim countries are ruled and governed with such brutal force by their Governments.
While world Politicians like to call Turkey a Democracy, They never have been. The many reasons for them not being a democracy are the same reasons keeping them out of the E.U. Turkey is the closest thing to a democratic state in the middle east and they fail miserably at it. Unless religion is removed from Middle East governments there will always be fighting. We in the west know the importance of separation of church from state. This is one of the reasons (to our credit) that never in history, have two democratic nations ever fought a war. Islamic State imposed religion seems to promote fanaticism. We are of course only covering the basics here. Education plays an important factor as well.
The recently announced Hydrogen on demand break through will hopefully allow the whole world to turn their backs on the middle east and leave them broke and to their own self demise. I for one am tired of paying for the rope that they want to hang me with.
Just my opinions for what they’re worth.
this would be true for Iraq as well
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