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To: HamiltonJay; All
in other words, you are UNWILLING to accept the FACTS & would rather continue to believe the KNOWING LIES that you've been spoon-fed, as if you were a child.

the TRUTH is that the INTENT was to DRIVE OUT or EXTERMINATE the American Indians by ANY means. there are HUNDREDS of OFFICIAL US government documents which say PRECISELY that.

also the TRUTH is that the government failed to wipe out the AIs ONLY because they COULD NOT, absent more $$$$$$$$, supplies & TIME than the government was eventually WILLING to expend. (may i gently remind you that ONE Seminole "chieftain" with less than FIFTY (50) warriors tied down the modern equivalent of an infantry BRIGADE for over FOUR years, with a total casualty rate for the Seminoles of ONE killed & about a DOZEN wounded. the US army had over ONE HUNDRED KIA & at least 100 more WIA ands/or DOW. finally, the army "declared victory" & LEFT the area, HUMILIATED. there are FEW records of this HUMILIATING DEFEAT, surprise, surprise!!! )

it matters NOT that you WISH that it was not so. as "SGT Joe Friday" used to say on TV, "Just the facts." fyi, the FACTS are NOT on your side, so you give us OPINIONS "dressed up as" facts.

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105 posted on 09/21/2007 8:08:40 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie

You are a raving lunatic.

The US government had more than the will and resources to whipe american tribal blood from its lands if it had intended to.

You need not remind me of holdouts who hid in the mountains and engaged in hit and run engagements, this isn’t news to me, or anyone.

50 holdouts does not create a decendant pool of millions 150 years later, sorry, NA don’t breed like rabbits.

The indians moved to reservations were disarmed, defeated and could have just as easily and readily been shot dead by the americans had they chosen to simply whipe indian blood from the land.

Your claims are just ludicrous.

Lets not even get into the fact your 50 holdouts were all men... something that makes reproduction impossible.

How many indians were relocated to reservations? If genocide was the intent relocating the indians west of the Mississippi would not have occurred, they would have just been slaughtered completely.

Claiming attrocity is one thing, to claim genocide is just not remotely supported by facts. You have made wild allegations that the US government could not have killed off the indians... this is nonsense. They were conquered, disarmed and relocated, all at the expense of the American Government, do you think paying for the ammunition needed to exterminate a defeated and disarmed people once this was done would have bankrupted the government if that had been their desire?

You are free to voice your complaints against the government for its actions, but to call it “genocide” does not remotely meet the definition of Genocide. Indian tribes were conquered, and yes attrocities occurred by all involved over the 400 years or so of conflict. To call it genocide is just over the top liberal shock value screeding.


108 posted on 09/24/2007 8:19:15 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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