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Gritty,

You mean like in the Oklahoma City Bombing case?

I haven't studied the case, Gritty, beyond a report on the structural damage the building suffered. I have read other comments of Freereps taking about it, and I wish I had some day the time to analyze it because that would mean the 3/11 case is over.

Unfortunately, anything is possible in Spain right now, especially if the right wing PP party keeps so small distance with the Socialists in the polls, ranging from a massacre carried out by ETA, to veiled threats of a coup told by high rank military close to the secret services, in order to polarize the public opinion.

The good news is that we already know their tactics, and that the Spanish public opinion is begining to realize about their deceptions: Zapatero negotiated too long with ETA, a good part of the population is becoming aware that they might be to faces of the same, hidden, thing.

quant5,

It means that less aggressive groups like the ETA learn that extreme terrorist violence like Al Queda can induce political change.

I don't think so. Check that AlQaeda hasn't induced political change in western nations. For AlQaeda, we are all infidels, no matter we are Democrats and Republicans, Socialists or Populars.

Not even in Iraq Al Qaeda has achieved such political change, that might be interesting for them in Muslim, non-infidel, countries. On the contrary, their brutality has made sunni leaders to support the coalition.

In any case, extreme violence DOES NOT induce political change that could be use in one's advantage UNLESS the political situation is manipulated, and no one can manipulate such situation but high rank members of the government and other key elements of the society.

It's good to know your fellow countrymen are coming around to recognizing nobody is going to get a free pass from the Islamics. As you say, we're all infidels.

If and when you finally get some time to investigate beyond 3/11, you might find it interesting to pick up this book by an American Journalist who lives in Oklahoma city, The Third Terrorist: Middle Eastern Links to the Oklahoma City Bombing, by Jayna Davis. She blows the whistle on our own Clinton Administration cover-up.

Good points. However, if memory serves me right Zapatero won the election by distancing himself completely from America on Iraq and this was after 3/11. The population seemed to vote peace by appeasement even after attacked and hence voted a socialist in. Am I mistaken in my facts? You certainly seem more knowledgeable on the subject.

Both Shiite and Sunni supported AQ in Iraq until AQ carried out suicide bombings on both groups mosques. The Sunnis seemed to take bit more time to get it that AQ is just a organization of murder with no true obtainable goals.