Posted on 09/17/2007 9:17:03 AM PDT by Between the Lines
While campaigning in predominately Baptist South Carolina, presidential candidate Senator John McCain (R-Az.), revealed that he is Baptist and has been for years. This new revelation will come as a shock for most in Jesusland, according to David Jeffers, author of Understanding Evangelicals: A Guide to Jesusland. "Evangelicals, and in this case those of the Baptist faith, are not going to be easily swayed by McCain's pandering," Jeffers said.
Jeffers explains that "Many of the Baptist faith are going to have a hard time accepting McCain's claim that he is a Baptist while saying he 'did not find it (baptism) necessary to do so for my spiritual needs." "Baptism is not followed to meet spiritual needs; it is an act of obedience and a public profession of faith in Jesus Christ," the author stated.
"It is this type of pandering that evangelicals are used to seeing from the Democratic side. To see it coming from a self-proclaimed 'conservative Republican' is not going to play well in Jesusland" said Jeffers. The author stated he "would completely expect something like this from Hillary Clinton or Howard Dean, but to see McCain stoop to this is a sign of his desperation to save his campaign."
Even though McCain states he is an "active member" of North Phoenix Baptist Church, Jeffers said McCain's personal stance on baptism is in direct conflict with the church's belief statement on baptism. Jeffers claims North Phoenix' claim "through baptism, we announce our commitment to the church and our desire to live a life following the example of Jesus Christ," definitely shows that McCain is out of step with his own church. Jeffers explains that baptism by immersion is what makes Baptists Baptist!
Jeffers reminds McCain that Proverbs 16:23 teaches "a wise man's heart guides his mouth," and in Jesusland it is not wise to claim to be something you are not.
Just wait until Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney claim that they too are Baptists. LOL!
McQueeg thinks he can be an unbaptised Baptist? Well, look at his record as a “conservative Republican.” Can’t blame the nut for trying again.
McCain will say anything to people. He is no better than Bill Clinton.
yup..of all the Mc's that he could be the only one that truly fits is McNuts
That WOULD be a miracle. LOL.
Anything thing for a vote, eh McVain?
(It's all about having it your own way in the Episcopal church).
Serious theological question here: Do Baptists rebaptise Episcopal converts? Thanks in advance fot the answer.
Was McCain baptized into another faith? It clearly states that his family joined the church, and he attends with them. He just didn’t formally join. So he can’t claim to be a Baptist? Hogwash.
I liked the way he kicked John Kerry’s ass yesterday.
Most Primitive Baptists DO re-baptize, if you weren't originally baptized as an adult after a profession of faith, or by total immersion. Other, less strict, Baptist churches do not re-baptize Methodists or Episcopalians, even though the overwhelming majority were baptized by sprinkling or pouring, and as infants.
Of course, since the Baptist governance is congregational, I imagine you have almost as many variations as you have churches.
- I'm not a Baptist but I grew up with a bunch of them, being here in the South.
That is one great headline. Love it.
Funny...I thought you were for folks leaving ECUSA and converting to another denomination.
I don’t care if he’s Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, Catholic, Jew or Morman. Crazy has no religious boundaries.
John the Baptist, he ain’t!
MCCAIN FOLLOWS HUNCH, NOT GOP HERD; [CHICAGO SPORTS FINAL Edition]
James Warren, Tribune Staff Writer. Chicago Tribune. Chicago, Ill.: Aug 3, 1999. pg. 1(snip)
[Illustration] PHOTO GRAPHIC; Caption: PHOTO (color): Sen. John McCain receives a kiss from his wife, Cindy, while campaigning in Greenville, S.C. New York Daily News photo by Harry Hamburg. GRAPHIC (color): Underdog with a strategy Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz) has focused his presidential campaign on South Carolina, site of the nation's third primary and a large veteran population, where he hopes his military background will help him pull off an upset. Personal - Born: Aug. 29, 1936 - Religion: Baptist - Education: U.S. Naval Academy - Family: Son and grandson of two admirals, John S. McCain Jr. and John S. McCain Sr. Wife, Cindy; seven children; four grandchildren. Professional - Military: 22-year career in the Navy; shot down over Hanoi in 1967 and spent 5 1/2 years as a prisoner of war. - Politics: Elected a congressman from Arizona in 1982, served two terms; elected to Senate in 1986. Political philosophy A moderate and a chief proponent of campaign finance reform.
You don't want Episcopalians coming into your church and bringing the sameold sameold attitudes with them. Sort of like Jimmuh Carter trying to remake the Baptist church in his own image.
Or like all those people from California who move to Arizona and Idaho, and straightway start trying to make it 'just like home', to the discomfiture of the natives.
Nothing like a little research!
(I still won't vote for him, his religious affiliation means absolutely zilch to the overall question of his total lack of suitability for the presidency.)
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