Trinity Episcopal Church on Wall Street.
Posted on 09/16/2007 3:34:42 AM PDT by Man50D
Glad to hear many Episcopalians deserting their churches immoral stance on the acceptance of homosexuality.
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Well usually when WND gets posted there is usually someone pointing out the ‘lack’ of credibility so I will be the first... s/ I do not know anything about The Episcopal Church but this is a good thing.
It seems that 33 of the discenting congregations in the US have agreed to be under the province of the Church of Uganda. Is it just me or does there seem to be a first world versus 3rd world division here?
http://www.monitor.co.ug/sunday/life/life091616.php
The culture wars transcend church communities all over the world, across many religions.Tibetan Buddhists for example , of the liberal persuasion, fail to acknowledge the connection between "liberal peace at any cost" and the disappearance of 2 million Tibetans into the Chinese Gulag between 1949 and 1970, not to mention the loss of an entire nation to Red China.
The same is happening in Islam, where the liberal Muslims want a peaceful co-existance with Western culture , and an adaptation of traditional value systems which are cultural, not religious. The Muslim extremists want jihad, and death to all who do not live a traditional Muslim life inside of a regime of Sharia Law. They are killing each other in waves. Again, function is completely lost in the morass of "individual realization " of the extreme factions of Islam. Moonbat liberalism is completely divorced from function. There is a disconnect between social duty and individual"realization." Thus people who are gay NOW need a social context in which to openly manifest and influence society according to their lights, where as before these gays existed in the shadows of privacy. NOW the gay life style, sterile in its function, takes its "equal" place as an alternative "life style choice." So where do we rest in this morass of polarization?
We rest in sanity and non polarization, where individual needs and wants are synchronized with duty to ones community. Above all religion or equal with it,comes patriotism to the our nation and the constitution of the United States, for without it , we have no freedom of religion or speech, nor security.
We also need to be clear about how we are different from both ultra conservative and liberal moonbat extremists. Ultimately there needs to be union between individual "needs" so called, and community function. OUr forefathers knew this fact and worked to unify and synchronize the two into a "perfect union" of man and society.
It is this approach that we are losing by listening to moonbats and takling them seriously , for theyneed to be publicly ridiculed, their seriousness dissolved into laughter and if need be: disgrace.
The Episcopalians who want to admit gays? Let them, but also laugh at them, for they will no longer flourish and will wilt on the vine.
The Uganda church has to deal with lots of Muslims in their countries there. They cannot afford to cede the moral high ground.
Religion is the opium of the people when they mainline it.
Liberal religion is a useless drug that will never heal your pain.
Why don’t Episcopal churches worldwide vote to expel the deviants, and bar them from using the name “Episcopal”? If a McDonalds franchise turned vegan, would the corporation permit it to retain its franchise?
The fish rots from the head. In this case, the Archbishop of Canterbury. While the Episcopal Church/COE does not have a doctrine of Infallibility, imagine what would happen to the Mother Church if the Pope suddenly advocated Gay Weddings!
As a person born into the CoE, I mourn its corrupt passing as if it were a friend who died decades ago.
It's just an administrative arrangement brokered by the dissenting congregations, the Anglican Church, and the Church of Uganda. Already, several of the largest, wealthiest parrishes in Northern Virginia have left, and I expect that my wife's Conservative parrish in Maryland will also leave after the big November meeting, where things will really come to a head.
Well, the Anglican Church is just about to do that very thing... It seems that about 40 percent of the current American Episcopal community falls into the liberal mold with the Conservative dissenters comprise about 40%. They are in the minority and cannot clean up the church at large by their simple lack of votes. That’s why they are leaving en masse and remaining with the Anglican Convention under the auspices of the Church of Uganda.
That sect is toast.
Traditional Anglican ping, continued in memory of its founder Arlin Adams. Yet if you listen to the official reponses of the Episcopal Church in the US they state that only roughly 80 congregations out of *7,000* have voted or are likely to vote to leave.
The biggest issue for most is who owns their land and buildings... shows how much courage they have for the Gospel.
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So, if he’s just sleeping around homosexually, it’s OK?
You know, Biblically, there are questions that are hard to answer. This isn’t one of them.
Ought NOT be true of just the Episcopals—but of ANY church that has abandonded the clear teaching of Scripture —be it in regaurd to the abomination of
homosexual behavior —or in accepting the shedding of
innocent blood on the altar of a womans choice? or wherever
a church is led astray . The Bible is the foundational standard by which the Christian is to be judged. It ought
be the standard by which the pew potatoes and Sunday Morning Social Clubbers determine which shepherd they will follow.
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