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To: BlackElk
Abe would never get nominated today and a good thing too! He did enough damage in a month more than one term.

Lincoln was one of our greatest Presidents.

152 posted on 09/15/2007 10:49:56 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: fortheDeclaration
You may be FOR the Declaration (a very fine document which we should recognize as having the force of law) but, if you think well of Lincoln's tenure as POTUS, then you cannot very well be supportive of the constitution that in the Tenth Amendment fully justified secession and did NOT prohibit secession before the Tenth Amendent was enacted.

Lincoln, in order to invade eleven Confederate states that had quite legally seceded from the Union, also violated the Fifth Amendment by depriving slaveholders of property without due process of law via the Emancipation Proclamation (I don't favor slavery but Lincoln had no constitutional justification), initiated the bloodiest war in American history for ilegal purposes, sent Sherman to lay waste to persons and property throughout much of the South, initiated an utterly unconstitutional military draft, and an utterly unconstitutional (as SCOTUS later found) personal income tax, subjected NYC to naval bombardment during the draft riots, and smashed the presses and jailed the editors of newspapers in the North opposed to his war.

249 posted on 09/16/2007 3:26:18 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Debatable.


269 posted on 09/16/2007 10:01:07 PM PDT by TBP
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