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To: indcons
Newt presumes Clinton will win the nomination.

I do not believe this is pre-ordained. But let's assume it to be true for the sake of argument.

At some point, Clinton's scandals will be used as ammo by her Democrat opponents. The latest finance scandal, where $25k of illegal contributions suddenly became over $800k is a case in point.

Those negatives will weaken her. Plus, once the Republican nominee starts hitting on the same issues, Clinton will end up being hammered on scandals for a year straight.

I for one do not believe Clinton is as strong of a national candidate as some assume. Especially if the campaign is close, and Clinton has to do a lot of last minute stumping, her shrill voice is unlikely to convert voters.

The Nutroots can't stand her, and may stay home if she gets the nomination.

As in the past, Ohio and Florida are in effect, the election.

Oh, and G.W. Bush is not running.

38 posted on 09/14/2007 6:29:28 PM PDT by magellan
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To: magellan
“Newt presumes Clinton will win the nomination.
I do not believe this is pre-ordained. But let’s assume it to be true for the sake of argument.

At some point, Clinton’s scandals will be used as ammo by her Democrat opponents. The latest finance scandal, where $25k of illegal contributions suddenly became over $800k is a case in point.

Those negatives will weaken her. Plus, once the Republican nominee starts hitting on the same issues, Clinton will end up being hammered on scandals for a year straight.

I for one do not believe Clinton is as strong of a national candidate as some assume. Especially if the campaign is close, and Clinton has to do a lot of last minute stumping, her shrill voice is unlikely to convert voters.

The Nutroots can’t stand her, and may stay home if she gets the nomination.

As in the past, Ohio and Florida are in effect, the election.

Oh, and G.W. Bush is not running.”

There’s a lot of wisdom to what you say. In the end she is just a senator from NY and former White House caterer. Her negatives, especially in the southern states are very high.

Also I know it’s primary season and the candidates are sparring with one another (in both parties). But the dems in general are spending their time bashing Bush. Your last statement about that is very telling.

48 posted on 09/14/2007 6:36:02 PM PDT by samm1148 (Pennsylvania-They haven't taxed air--yet)
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To: magellan

and Clinton has to do a lot of last minute stumping, her shrill voice is unlikely to convert voters.


Yeah...I keep hearing that over and over on FR...how that shrill voice will turn people off...and how she sounds like every man’s ex-wife...how it’s like fingernails on a blackboard, etc;etc;etc.........but in case you hadn’t noticed, the media have wised up, and steadfastly refused to show those rare clips where she loses her composure, and they’ll continue to cover for her. Hannity, Rush, Drudge, Imus, and other talk show people will play them, but the left or most independents don’t listen to them anyway. Sorry, I don’t believe she’ll slip on that, her handlers know it’s one of her weakest points, and she’s quite obviously employed a voice coach. I myself can’t even believe it’s the same woman talking. And, don’t forget-she also has the slickster to take up the speechgiving slack.


62 posted on 09/14/2007 6:53:43 PM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney ("We just can't trust the American people to make the correct choices."-Hillary)
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To: magellan
I agree. I think one of Hillary's biggest talents is getting people to overestimate her. Personally, I am convinced of two things:
1. The ONLY way she could win the presidency would be through voter fraud.
2. IF elected, she would very quickly become the most unpopular president in American history by far and would become virtually powerless before the year was out.

On the other hand, Democrats, especially the Clintons, play very dirty. Vince Foster is dead, for God's sake, and a cursory glance at the Clintons' past makes it pretty clear that close business associations with them can be hazardous to your health. Therefore:

At some point, Clinton's scandals will be used as ammo by her Democrat opponents.

I'm not so sure about that. I think the Clintons have a lot of dirt and are ruthless in how they enforce blackmail -- i.e., threaten loved ones. They are thugs.

81 posted on 09/14/2007 7:49:00 PM PDT by Finny ( Only saps buy man-caused global warming.)
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To: magellan

I agree with all your points.


108 posted on 09/14/2007 8:32:26 PM PDT by ckilmer
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