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I do have a question though, why do the same people show up on every Ron Paul thread with the same talking points and their poorly worded and seeming irrational hatred of the man? Why don't they just skip the thread on move on to the ones about Hillary? Now that is a conspiracy... They must have the same ping list.

Some of them support the leftwing mayor but won't admit it. Others recognize how liberal the Bush era policies have been but seem to believe that we must embrace those policies or the entire GOP house of cards will tumble. A few just love to find someone to hate and operate that way here at FR; you find them talking about sitting at the "cool table" back in high school and other juvenile rot, obviously a precious memory to them. Completely unprincipled. At best, they're partisan hacks. And if a Dim president is elected, they'll quickly flip all their positions 100% and continue on as partisan hacks. The real problem is that without principles, you cannot have a meaningful ideology to communicate to the masses against the flack of libmedia.

Liberals can afford to be unprincipled, given that libmedia will always cover for them. We conservatives cannot.

But why the hatred? And why so public about it? This I don't understand - you make your point, you move on. They made their points, some good ones too, but they won't let it alone. It is almost like they fear the ideas of this man. They denigrate him as a man, make fun of his appearance, call him names... Not like men at all, but more like Nancy-boys.

Part of it is just to ensure that these threads are so trashed that no one wants to come on them. Another reason is to intimidate anyone from posting in a positive way about Ron Paul. We do have many more Ron Paul supporters here than post on these threads or who are on our Ron Paul pinglist. And they will support him but not expose themselves to the abuse here.

As for 2008, some of the Paul-haters come right out and say they would vote for Hillary if Ron Paul were our nominee. Now that is some pretty sick stuff. But at least they're honest about it. I may, for instance, say I'd never vote for that horrible leftwing mayor. But I would never vote for Hitlery. If Satan were the GOP nominee, I wouldn't vote for Hitlery.

FR is a far more liberal site now than it was originally. And I'm not blaming JimRob. He can't change who comes here or who buys into this liberal bilge floated by the GOP about as much as the Dims these days. I know from years of reading his posts that his instincts are just pretty darned conservative. But there's a limit to what a site owner can do to influence his membership.

The real problem is that without principles, you cannot have a meaningful ideology to communicate to the masses against the flack of libmedia....But there's a limit to what a site owner can do to influence his membership.

Agreed. What I have a problem understanding.... Let me say it this way, that I have attended cocktail parties, political wing-dings, dinner parties, bar fights, football games, etc., and I have NEVER heard opinions voiced that echo the posts of some FReepers. The reason being they would be decked, or worse. But these FReepers, safe in their alias identities, mouth the most obscene and tasteless opinions, not facts mind you, but opinions, that I have ever read, about people they have never met. They would not dare say these hateful things to their workmate or their neighbor but feel perfectly at ease running their keyboard like they would never run their mouth. They are perfectly amoral. Why they even show up with their crappy outlook on life I can not imagine but they do, time after time. And you are right, the threads deteriorate so quickly that I generally pass over them. So they do achieve their goals, if that is their goal. I think they are just determinedly ignorant Americans, jealous fo their fellow man, and always will be.