Posted on 09/13/2007 4:43:19 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
Look...I don't want to crush your man. But he overplayed the delay game and then he got off to a unimpressive start, considering the anticipation.
Fred has a big job ahead. He has lured a large contingent -- perhaps a decisive one -- to buy into a political shadow. Fred is not well-defined, although he attracts people's hopes and belief, which is an important political ability.
But now it will be much tougher. Fred will probably have to make some choices and tell us who he truly is. I hope he does...I have no appetite for a candidate who merely looks conservative and sounds folksy. And please spare me the canned rebuttal: Fred does not have much of a political resumé. He especially does not have much indication of an ideological posture.
Taking positions, choosing sides means offending some potential supporters. Fred has already milked Law and Order for all it is worth.
Sugar (no syrup) is the law in some places, I think in Mexico for one. Maybe it’s just cheaper in Hawaii.
“his speeches are dull, listless and full of cliches and few real idea”
That is my early impression of Thompson too. I almost slipped into a coma the first time I heard him speak. I would definitely vote for him were he the nominee. But, we need someone who can convincingly articulate a message of bold change based on conservative principles..... and I’m not so sure Thompson can do it. The only candidate out there that is truly impressive & knowledgeable on all subject matter is Newt Gingrich. Is there any way to transplant Newt’s brain into Thompson’s head???
Just one man's opinion Take it for what it's worth.
A lot of people thought our former governor, Dubya, with his ranch and pickup and Texas accent, would govern like another Reagan. Instead we got the "new tone," a budget-busting Medicare drug expansion, Ted Kennedy writing education bills, uncontrolled spending, and no vetoes, not even of McCain-Feingold. You can't judge a book by its cover, or by its Southern drawl. As Ben Stein says, "Any Republican is better than any Democrat," but I've yet to see any "perfect" candidate in this race for a Reaganite like me, and I'm not fooling myself that I will. I think after the brouhaha dies down, some of the shine will come off of Fred and people will see that there are other, perfectly electable candidates with more energy and principles, better records and more experience.
Yeah, sure. And Tuesday's Rasmussen poll showing Fred 7 points ahead of Rudy threw us into an even darker depression.
Who? I surveyed the field far and wide before Fred was a speck on the radar. Mitt, I'd vote for, but I think his Mormonism is good for losing 3% of the vote and his flip floppedness another 3%, which means President Hillary...plus the guy's too slick and really does remind me of a polished TV weatherman.
Rudy? Puuulleeze. The guy's about as conservative as Mondale for chrissakes. McCain? Naaa. Nobody else is worth even mentioning.
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“I don’t understand the fervor with which so many fellow conservatives have embraced Fred.”
In contemplating Thompson’s place in the current race, I’ve boiled it down to three words: Genuine. Electable. Conservative.
That’s what many base voters have been looking for. Everything else you say may be true, but GOP primary voters were being forced to overlook some ideological issues or jump on board practically unelectable candidates. when it comes to perception, especially perception of southern state primary voters, it has looked like there was a hole in the field. As I described it to a friend, it’s like being in a car showroom and seeing different models and liking something from each model, but not liking any of the models entirely.
The GOP base needed someone who is all of the above (genuine, electable, conservative), who can defeat Rudy and then Hillary. Newt can’t be the man, he’ll never beat Hillary; nor did any of the dwarf candidates get traction against Rudy or McCain - Brownback, Huckabee, Gilmore, Hunter, Tancredo haven’t quite got the juice; Rudy has sold himself as a strong leader who should be given a pass on social issues because he’s, well, a leader; but the New York mayor story becomes a bit thin after a while. McCain - immigration fiasco - ‘nuff said, not acceptable. Mitt Romney, despite stellar resume of executive experience and running as unifying conservative that hits all the Reaganesque spots and running an energetic and well-organized campaign, is bedevilled by flip-flop charges and the ‘too good to be true’ label; Romney leads in early states but not national-level momentum.
Now, there may be holes in the Fred Thompson story, but still, it’s a pretty good story, and some folks are going to want to WILL it to be true because we are desperate for the Reagan-on-the-white-horse. Fred’s played other roles, why not this one?
I too have been taken aback not by Thompson’s support per se but by the fervor surrounding it. Fred has all the negatives you mention. But it wont matter to the voters if he did little in 8 years in the Senate, if in those 8 years he was conservative enough to be trusted and get the ‘genuine electable conservative’ label.
Thompson is ahead in Florida. I posited last week that if Romney won some of the early states like IA and NH, then Thompson won SC and FL, Rudy and McCain both would be toast. Thus, Romney and Thompson land a 1-2 punch on both Rudy and McCain. If Thompsons national lead solidifies in coming weeks and doesnt recede, he’s the new frontrunner.
I’d say that just based on the Cali and Florida polls alone, where Thompson is now ahead, and looking at internals where that lead among the core conservative voters is much larger, that Rudy is in big trouble and the nomination is Thompson’s to lose if he runs his campaign right.
Who are you rooting for that Fred gives you such heartburn?
Off topic but...Wasn’t Serge the queer in the Eddie Murphy movies? Beverly Hills Cop?
My aunt, husband, mother and I are voting for him. (I'm working on my cousin.) We have one hold-out in the family for Hillary. The dems are afraid that we may actually have a candidate that can beat the b*tch. Gotta kill him in the cradle.
Each and every family has at least one idiot (politically speaking). To me voting for Hitlery is like voting for satin.
Everything that’s being said about Fred now was said about Reagan in ‘80.
Now there are a pair of disappointments dating WAY back. Will has had the opportunities for years to do some good.....hasn't YET ! 'Has-beens' or 'never-wases'?
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That's ok. Truthful and Dims don't go together anyway.
You are exactly right. While Fred is not Reagan and is his own man, the Dem play book is the same as it was then. The only difference is that they have grown even bolder and control an even more blatantly partisan MSM.
I've been hearing that same old song, sung off-key, since at least March. So far not one day has gone by that Fred hasn't impressed me more. And please don't embarass yourself by claiming I haven't been paying attention...The Daily FRead
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