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Hillary’s Not-Quite-Refunded Hsu Funds: ‘Depends on What the Definition of Refund Is.’
NRO Campaign Spot ^ | September 13, 2007 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 09/13/2007 11:35:20 AM PDT by jdm

John Edwards isn’t exactly a shrinking violet when it comes to criticizing Hillary Clinton, or bringing up the Clintons’ past scandals – recall his “the Lincoln Bedroom is not for rent” speech. In fact, that speech came on the 23rd of August, just a few days before the whole Norman Hsu mess exploded on the nation’s front pages.

Yet John Edwards hasn’t yet commented on the Norman Hsu matter. 

There’s no mention of Hsu on his web site. (A few blog posters have mentioned it on his site, but nothing from the campaign itself.)

A voice in the Edwards camp did express frustration at Hillary’s now-we’re-returning-it-now-we-aren’t stance: “I guess it depends on what the definition of ‘refund’ is.”

That was a reference to this detail in coverage of Hillary’s handling the funds, “The campaign is refunding $850,000 to these donors, viewing the money as tainted. Yet the campaign is also risking another public relations mess by saying that it would take back the money if it clearly came from the donor’s bank account, not from Mr. Hsu or another source.”

“Here’s what I find stunning,” says the voice in the Edwards camp. “The first day they decided to give back the $850,000, they took this holier-than-thou approach. But now we hear they’re building a system for bringing back that money… When you get tainted money, usually you give it to charity. This is a disgusting, craven strategy. They want the headlines that they’re doing good, and reporters are like putty in their hands, and then Terry McAuliffe’s going to ask for the money back. It’s so Clintonian, it’s what drives Democrats nuts, and it really gets to what Edwards said in that speech – that the problem with political nostalgia is that you only remember what you liked – not what you didn’t like… If you want the parsing of language, we’re not your camp.”

John Edwards “hasn’t received a dime from Norman Hsu,” I’m told. It’s a golden opportunity to slam Hillary. So why the silence from the candidate himself?

The Edwards camp has stated they're now doing criminal background checks on their donors. I'm thinking out loud here, but I wonder if the Edwards camp wants to complete the check on their own donors, and once they're given a clean bill of donor health, so to speak, they'll open fire on Hillary over Hsu.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; clintonian; clintons; democrats; edwards; hillary; howcanwefoolthem2day; hsu; itssoclintonian; piaps; soclintonian; sotypical; typical
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1 posted on 09/13/2007 11:35:23 AM PDT by jdm
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To: jdm
"The Edwards camp has stated they're now doing criminal background checks on their donors. I'm thinking out loud here, but I wonder if the Edwards camp wants to complete the check on their own donors, and once they're given a clean bill of donor health, so to speak, they'll open fire on Hillary over Hsu."

Makes sense -- they wouldn't want to open fire on Shrillery without doing all they can to make sure they don't have any similar problems of their own. I detest Edwards but it makes sense not to jump into the fray on this before you've checked the status of your own campaign. Then I hope we will get the enjoy the spectacle of John and Elizabeth Edwards ripping Shrillery on this, because they certainly could get the left fired up about it.
2 posted on 09/13/2007 11:39:25 AM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: jdm
There is no story here. The Democrats always distort the facts of monetary gifts from offshore, criminals and hack politicians. In their case dishonesty is a given.
3 posted on 09/13/2007 11:46:00 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: ANGGAPO

“a willing suspension of disbelief.”


4 posted on 09/13/2007 11:49:01 AM PDT by Rodm (Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings)
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To: Enchante

I can’t quite get a mental image of President Edwards, or him in the White House, but I do like the giant killer role for them.


5 posted on 09/13/2007 11:50:37 AM PDT by Thebaddog (My dogs are asleep paws up)
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To: jdm

He probably won’t say much..........hoping for Vice-President position.


6 posted on 09/13/2007 11:55:43 AM PDT by RC2
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To: jdm; Grampa Dave; Liz

7 posted on 09/13/2007 11:58:13 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: jdm

If you would like to send Hillary!!(tm) a Donation:
Press ONE for Cantonese
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8 posted on 09/13/2007 11:59:37 AM PDT by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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To: jdm

Hillary won’t give a pennny of it back. Who would dare check on her?


9 posted on 09/13/2007 12:01:27 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: tcrlaf

Cat Fight!! May the best girl win.


10 posted on 09/13/2007 12:01:43 PM PDT by teddyballgame (red man in a blue state)
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To: Enchante; jdm

We can hear Hill saying, “I didn’t have sex with thos H$U returns!”


11 posted on 09/13/2007 12:04:55 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Donate to Vets For Freedom: http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/)
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To: jdm
Perhaps the Breck Girl will mention this during his address to the nation tonight.
12 posted on 09/13/2007 12:05:56 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Cementjungle

13 posted on 09/13/2007 12:06:39 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Whaddaya call a Chinese Donator’s Coffin?

A HSU BOX!


14 posted on 09/13/2007 12:08:41 PM PDT by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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To: jdm; Millee; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; null and void; Larry Lucido; Eric Blair 2084
I would love for John Edwards... to win the Rat nomination!

But even the Dems are not that stupid... are they?

Well... they did run Kerry in 2004.

15 posted on 09/13/2007 12:14:54 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: tcrlaf

Check my tagline.

Should we offer our services for a Hsuicide Watch for H$U?


16 posted on 09/13/2007 12:16:45 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (What do you call a ChiCom donor's coffin? (drum roll) A HSU box!)
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To: jdm

The source of the quote is an anonymous person at the Edwards camp? Pretty wordy for an anonymous source!
Then I go to the article linked and that quote is not there. What’s up with that? Did they erase it or is the link wrong?


17 posted on 09/13/2007 12:17:25 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Senator Clinton should step down!)
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Ree-cycled for ree-funding.


18 posted on 09/13/2007 12:21:48 PM PDT by Califreak (Go Hunter!)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
Is this the paragraph you're referring to?

“Here’s what I find stunning,” says the voice in the Edwards camp. “The first day they decided to give back the $850,000, they took this holier-than-thou approach. But now we hear they’re building a system for bringing back that money… When you get tainted money, usually you give it to charity. This is a disgusting, craven strategy. They want the headlines that they’re doing good, and reporters are like putty in their hands, and then Terry McAuliffe’s going to ask for the money back. It’s so Clintonian, it’s what drives Democrats nuts, and it really gets to what Edwards said in that speech – that the problem with political nostalgia is that you only remember what you liked – not what you didn’t like… If you want the parsing of language, we’re not your camp.”
I don't think the author of this NRO piece is saying the above paragraph was posted at johnedwards.com; however, I thought that at first too. I don't think it appeared on Edwards' blog but was then deleted. Who knows who Geraghty was talking to in the Edwards' camp. It's hard to tell.
19 posted on 09/13/2007 12:25:12 PM PDT by jdm
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Yes, that’s it. It’d be great to have anyone from the Edwards camp openly call Clinton “disgusting” and “craven.” So I went to the link hoping to get a hint who might have said it, and the whole thing was gone. Waaah! :(

Any squabbling among the Dems will help keep this story in the public eye. By himself Norman Hsu is not a very interesting person, but if he causes a Clinton-Edwards fight he could really sparkle, and that’s good for us.


20 posted on 09/13/2007 12:35:12 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Senator Clinton should step down!)
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