The NY Times vs. Common Sense

realclearpolitics.com ^ | September 12, 2007 | Ed Koch

[neverdem]

A New York Times editorial of September 9th commenting on the recent battle on immigration legislation exhibited a naiveté that was, for me, beyond belief. The Times has led the battle for the McCain-Kennedy bill to provide a path to U.S. citizenship for 12 to 20 million illegal immigrants. While attacking President Bush on nearly every front nearly every day, on this issue it allied itself with the President, a supporter of the legislation.

In a dramatic ending to the legislative struggle, the American people rose up in their wrath in opposition to offering an amnesty to the millions of illegal aliens who had entered the country unlawfully or overstayed their visas by permitting them to take certain measures, including paying a fine, to become eligible for U.S. citizenship...

--SNIP--

I have suggested we offer to pay their transportation costs and pay each member of the family returning to their native country a bonus of $500 payable at the nearest U.S. consulate in their home countries. But the opponents like The Times seek to continue the fight and battle efforts of those opposing the employment of illegals here in the U.S. The Times further editorializes, "And a crackdown in Prince William County, Va., inspired a boycott and a fiery march last week led by a testy group called Mexicanos Sin Fronteras. You didn't think they were just going to roll over, did you? They're immigrants: smart, industrious self-starters, like your grandparents."

My reading of this is support for the demonstrators -- Mexicans Without Borders -- and two words interested me in the Times' description of the march -- "fiery" and "testy" and in addition the reference to "your grandparents." It wasn't my grandparents alone who came here; my mom and dad did too. And they came as legal immigrants.

[neverdem]

There are other valid arguments, but Ed Koch's alone should be sufficient. What we have now is stupid, emphasizing extended family unification. We want educated immigrants. We have a duty to some asylum seekers.

[MarMema]

And they came as legal immigrants.

So did three of my children. So I want the money back that cost me a fortune, paid to INS, for bringing them here legally and dotting every i correctly on the forms.

[neverdem]

So did three of my children. So I want the money back that cost me a fortune, paid to INS, for bringing them here legally and dotting every i correctly on the forms.

So did I have to do for my wife. What a bunch of grief! The supposedly loyal opposition is anything but.

[sure_fine]

“I have suggested we offer to pay their transportation costs and pay each member of the family returning to their native country a bonus of $500 payable at the nearest U.S. consulate in their home countries.”

lets think about that a minute

instead of paying their countries a ransom to take them back lets offer them an alternative”

1. if they go back to their country on their own, they won’t be hanged in the public square

2. if they go back to their country on their own, their heads won’t be held underwater until they stop moving

3. if they go back to their country on their own, they will see next summer

4. if they go back to their country on their own, they might be able to find something to eat

ect.,; ect.,

[bcsco]

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[Carbonado]

I understand and mostly concur with your sentiments, but the important thing to consider is that the problem of illegals is aided and abetted by both the business class patricians AND the Libs.

Personally, I consider both groups to be my enemies and will treat them as such. This is not an issue where we can simply agree to disagree and continue to act like civilized adults. In the face of the governments absolute refusal to do their constitutional duty and the (mostly) Leftist media attempting to frame the discussion in terms of YOUR guilt, I see them as my and my children's mortal enemies.