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OU-UT rivalry at center of bloody bar fight
Houston Chronicle ^ | 9/11/2007 | associated press

Posted on 09/11/2007 1:21:14 PM PDT by 1riot1ranger

OU-UT rivalry at center of bloody bar fight Associated Press

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — To hear Oklahoma football fans tell it, some things just aren't done in the heart of Sooner Nation, and one of them is to walk into a bar wearing a Texas Longhorns T-shirt.

That's exactly what touched off a bloody skirmish that left a Texas-shirt-wearing fan nearly castrated and an Oklahoma fan facing aggravated assault charges that could put him in prison for up to five years.

The shocking case has set off a raging debate in this football-crazed region about the extreme passions behind a bitter rivalry. Some legal observers have even questioned whether this case could ever truly have an impartial jury.

"I've actually heard callers on talk radio say that this guy deserved what he got for wearing a Texas T-shirt into a bar in the middle of Sooner country," said Irven Box, an attorney in this city 20 miles from Oklahoma's campus in Norman.

According to police, 32-year-old Texas fan Brian Christopher Thomas walked into Henry Hudson's Pub on June 17 wearing a Longhorns T-shirt and quickly became the focus of football "trash talk" from another regular, 53-year-old Oklahoma fan Allen Michael Beckett.

Thomas told police that when he decided to leave and went to the bar to pay his tab, Beckett grabbed him in the crotch, pulled him to the ground and wouldn't let go, even as bar patrons tried to break it up. When the two men were separated, Thomas looked down and realized the extent of his injuries.

"He could see both of his testicles hanging on the outside of his body," said Thomas' attorney, Carl Hughes. "He was wearing a pair of white shorts, which made it that much worse."

It took more than 60 stitches to close the wound, and police interviewed Thomas at a nearby hospital emergency room.

Beckett's attorney, Billy Bock, concedes that his client commented about Thomas' shirt, but said it was just good-natured ribbing and that he apologized to Thomas when it appeared to upset the Texas fan. Later, Bock said Thomas approached his client at the bar and threatened him.

"My client is a little man, and this guy (Thomas) is 30 to 40 pounds bigger than him," Bock said. "He's bigger, stronger, younger and probably faster, and he aggressively leaned in and touched my client and threatened to beat him up. ... My guy was defending himself and just took control of the situation."

Thomas' attorney disputes Beckett's version.

"That's total malarkey," Hughes said. "My client never said a word to him. He got up to pay and when he paid and left a tip, the guy grabbed him."

Beckett, a 53-year-old church deacon, federal auditor and former Army combat veteran, has pleaded not guilty. His next court appearance comes Oct. 4, two days before the Sooners and Horns tangle in their annual football game at the Cotton Bowl in Dallas.

Thomas, who once lived in Houston and became a Texas fan during the heyday of star running back Earl Campbell, is still recovering from his injuries but has returned to work as a meat cutter at a Sam's Club warehouse store.

Like Beckett and Thomas, many fans of the two college squads never attended either university, but have come to identify so closely with these teams that they attach banners to their cars, wear team colors on game day and even have programmed their car horns to play school fight songs.

Dallas police Sgt. Andy Harvey, a 12-year veteran of the force, said it's not uncommon for fights to break out between fans of the two schools.

"People are passionate about their teams and their universities, and that's a good thing," he said, "but when you mix a real passionate sports fan and then get a little alcohol in there, sometimes it's not a good mix."

On both Texas and Oklahoma fan Web sites, boosters trade familiar tales of having their car tires slashed or windshields smashed for sporting the opposing team's sticker in enemy territory.

Assistant District Attorney Scott Rowland said the rivalry will have no bearing on the way the case is prosecuted.

"It appears that it played a part in the fight," he said, "but that won't play any more of a role in our handling of the case than would a fight over a girl or a car or a song on the jukebox."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: football; ou; texas
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To: Honeybunch

Ping.


41 posted on 09/12/2007 6:57:20 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: babaloo999

Re: post #36.

I can’t believe the Houston Chronicle is two weeks behind the news! I mean, this is a major metropolitan newspaper!

(I really did check for duplicate threads.)


42 posted on 09/12/2007 8:25:12 AM PDT by 1riot1ranger ("There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. ..." President T. Roosevelt)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Absolutely outstanding comment.....ROFLMAO
43 posted on 09/12/2007 12:12:26 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: Explodo
The Texas guy definitely did not have enough common sense.

Sort of like striking matches in a gasoline barrel.

If truth be known he was looking for a fight or and opportunity to sue someone for discrimination against stupid UT fans.

44 posted on 09/12/2007 12:15:29 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: LetsRok
LetsRok wrote:
If you didn’t go to school there, you have no business wearing their stuff.

Courtesy Comment:

So, since most of us never played for a pro football team we can no longer wear their stuff.

Darn, do I have to give back my Dallas Cowboys stool lid cover.

45 posted on 09/12/2007 12:20:00 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: Tex Pete
Tex Pete wrote:
“I can’t speak as to the Sooner, but if the t-sip was drinking a wine cooler, he probably attended t.u.”

I’ve never understood why (presumably)otherwise normal adults get so caught up in a rivalry that they say such stupid things. You don’t know me and I don’t know you but that is an idiotic, juvenile statement.

Courtesy Comment:

Hum! It would only upset me if the panty waisted nervy Texas fan was also wearing his In Your Face $300 dollar Gucci Sand Dippers along with his $150 dollar Ice Cream Britches.

46 posted on 09/12/2007 12:32:21 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: OKIEDOC

I have no idea what you’re talking about. Sounds like a Dallas thing.

The poster I previously replied to was obviously an Aggie, which is far as I can tell, makes him irrelevant in this discussion.


47 posted on 09/12/2007 1:27:38 PM PDT by Tex Pete
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To: 1riot1ranger

I remembered seeing that thread but when I did a search, nothing came up for “testicles”. Then I remembered that “scrotum” was in the title and there ya go. :)


48 posted on 09/12/2007 3:48:32 PM PDT by babaloo999 (Liberals say they're "Progressive". So is cancer.-------------------they're, their, whatever)
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To: OKIEDOC

Don’t be crazy!!! I am very attached to my Steelers gear. I am talking about college stuff. That’s like wearing a McDonald’s uniform even though you never worked there.


49 posted on 09/12/2007 5:17:56 PM PDT by LetsRok
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To: jdub

You sound like a pus.


50 posted on 09/12/2007 5:32:22 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: LetsRok

Oh, ok. Thanks for sharing that wisdom with us.


51 posted on 09/12/2007 5:33:19 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: LetsRok

So, you should only be a Steelers fan if you lived in Pittsburgh or if you live in the state where the team is located?


52 posted on 09/12/2007 5:35:19 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Tex Pete
You don’t know me and I don’t know you but that is an idiotic, juvenile statement.

between normal, good natured people, its a little harmless joshing that begs a retort about an Aggie stereotype.

53 posted on 09/12/2007 6:37:14 PM PDT by jdub
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To: Tex Pete

ROFLMAO...Tell that to my cadet father-in-law A&M 57.....funny


54 posted on 09/13/2007 7:30:03 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: jdub

That’s all fine and well. It’s kinda hard to pick up the good-natured vibe when it comes across on a political website.

My bad if I overreacted.


55 posted on 09/13/2007 9:22:59 AM PDT by Tex Pete
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