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Car Chases (Thomas Sowell)
Townhall.com ^ | September 11, 2007 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 09/10/2007 9:04:17 PM PDT by jazusamo

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When there is a police helicopter overhead, a shot straight down would have little chance of hitting some innocent bystander.

Moreover, this would not have to happen more than a few times before leading the police on a high-speed chase would lose a lot of its attractions

The voice of reason again from Dr. Sowell.

1 posted on 09/10/2007 9:04:19 PM PDT by jazusamo
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2 posted on 09/10/2007 9:06:04 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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Maybe the use of some high speed bullets would help the situation.


3 posted on 09/10/2007 9:13:49 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: jazusamo

Shatter upon impact .50 cal round fired from a helicopter at the engine compartment of the car from above would do the trick. Such a round would penetrate the hood, shatter when it hits the engine block, but the fragmentation would cut up the radiator, hoses, belts and other soft plastic/rubber components. The engine area would start to leak and smoke and eventually the engine would overheat and seize up. Would be hell of a paperwork writeup for insurance purposes for the owner.


4 posted on 09/10/2007 9:14:49 PM PDT by Fee (An American empire can only be built by leaders with the stomach of Romans.)
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To: jazusamo

To address the root of the problem is to encourage people to have a system in their car that allows it to be shut down remotely.

That is, if you have a type of car commonly stolen, or you just know that you will never have any reason to try and outrun the police, a single electronic component could be added to your vehicle.

If your car is trying to evade the police, then they call your service, like OnStar, and your service turns your car off.

And if you want to play it safe, if the police notify your service, then your service could page you and confirm that you want your vehicle shut down. This would be useful if someone stole your license plates and you’re driving on the other side of town.


5 posted on 09/10/2007 9:14:54 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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I agree, followed up by hard time if the driver survives.


6 posted on 09/10/2007 9:21:12 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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Yeah, except I doubt he has tried to shoot a quick moving target from a moving target.

Well intended, not well thought out.


7 posted on 09/10/2007 9:21:44 PM PDT by papasmurf (I'm for Free, Fair, and Open trade. America needs to stand by it's true Friend. Israel.)
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Rumor is the police are working on developing a remote control device which tells all cars nearby that have an onboard computer to shutdown and lock their doors.


8 posted on 09/10/2007 9:23:05 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: Popocatapetl

It would possibly work but there are a lot of cars to outfit and it would add more cost to them because the people on the Hill would make it mandatory.


9 posted on 09/10/2007 9:24:50 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: papasmurf

Granted it’s not the easiest thing but choppers can get pretty low.


10 posted on 09/10/2007 9:26:45 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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Won’t work. Most cars sold today don’t have the software hooks or external datalinks to pull that off.

And even at close range, a HERF gun won’t do much to a car.


11 posted on 09/10/2007 9:28:25 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Nothing is easier than taking cheap shots at the police, and there are journalists and politicians who do it regularly, as well as community activists who make a career out of it.

This is pretty funny in the context of a nearby post about a Bakerfield shooting where a reporter asked the chief why the officers didn't just shoot the guy in the foot.

12 posted on 09/10/2007 9:32:04 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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LOL! I read that. It’s hard enough to hit somebody that’s shooting back let alone shoot to wound.


13 posted on 09/10/2007 9:35:00 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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With all due respect, choppers get outrun and out maneuvered almost daily. The altitude they would have to maintain to get a clear shot, in an urban setting, would preclude any reliable degree of accuracy.

Why are we still trying to solve problems for our illogical and antiquated systems of transit?

If we could clear our heads, and think creatively, take the money out of the thought process; we could create a system that would eliminate car chases, a large majority of crashes, traffic jams, and pollution.

Seriously, we are looking at trillions of dollars in highway and road infrastructure improvements and expansion. Wouldn’t we be far better off spending that money on a forward thinking system. One that isn’t mostly consumable, and in constant need of repair/replacement, and that addresses a myriad of issues in one fell swoop?

In a personal and connected hybrid system of transiting, we could do this, and keep our cars, too.

Dang, I’m sorry for going so wide with your thread.

But, please, do wake me when we actually enter the 21st Century. LOL


14 posted on 09/10/2007 9:42:58 PM PDT by papasmurf (I'm for Free, Fair, and Open trade. America needs to stand by it's true Friend. Israel.)
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To: jazusamo

We agree ; plus the police should have the requirement to use immediate deadly force if the perp is headed to a school or other populated area.

The police should take out any runner any way possible : guided rocket...


When there is a police helicopter overhead, a shot straight down would have little chance of hitting some innocent bystander.

Moreover, this would not have to happen more than a few times before leading the police on a high-speed chase would lose a lot of its attractions


15 posted on 09/10/2007 9:43:50 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Popocatapetl

Brilliant!


16 posted on 09/11/2007 12:51:56 AM PDT by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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That is, if you have a type of car commonly stolen, or you just know that you will never have any reason to try and outrun the police, a single electronic component could be added to your vehicle.
. . . and no hacker would ever disable your vehicle just for the fun of it!

17 posted on 09/11/2007 2:50:35 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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Nothing is easier than taking cheap shots at the police, and there are journalists and politicians who do it regularly, as well as community activists who make a career out of it.
Police and a military are sine qua non for a government. Yet the governmentists who trash private enterprise are equally hard on the police and the military. The unifying principle I see in this is that in all cases the people being criticized are those who are making decisions and getting things done. And the people doing the criticizing never do that.
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It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds . . .


18 posted on 09/11/2007 2:56:28 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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>"please, do wake me when we actually enter the 21st Century. "

You can still sleep awhile. It's only the steam age.

19 posted on 09/11/2007 5:55:25 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Did you know that everyday mexican gays sneak into this country and unplug our brain dead ladies HJS)
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To: Popocatapetl
And if you want to play it safe, if the police notify your service, then your service could page you and confirm that you want your vehicle shut down. This would be useful if someone stole your license plates and you’re driving on the other side of town.

That's well thought out. Good suggestion.

20 posted on 09/11/2007 6:58:37 AM PDT by scan59 (Let consumers dictate market policies. Government just gets in the way.)
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