Is Ron Paul our only hope for a secure border?

SmallGovTimes.com ^ | September 10th, 2007 | Steve Adcock, SmallGovTimes.com

[mnehring]

I am talking about overall border security votes in general. He is about 50% on that subject. If it were any other candidate, no one would think twice about slapping the RINO label on him.

[ejonesie22]

This is so stupid it raises serious questions about the author’s sanity. The ONLY person who has been consently serious about border security is Duncan Hunter. Paul is been on all sides of the issue on immigration.

Actually I thought the article answered those question quite effectively.

I recommend Thorazine...

[ejonesie22]

Because you arguement is a total straw man. You avoid the point of this thread to make up a spurious arguement then demand everyone agure your irrlevent point. Freepers are to smart to fall for such attempts to diver off issue to avoid admiting your guy Paul is a total fraud.

I am not trying to pick nits with you, but you are totally wrong.

Ron Paul is no fraud.

He is the genuine article.

A 100% total and complete, bona fide nut job...

[MNJohnnie]

Another fraudulent statement about Hunter by you.

http://grades.betterimmigration.com/testgrades.php3?District=CA52&VIPID=133

Hunter scores an A- on Immigration votes. Paul only scores a B

http://grades.betterimmigration.com/compare.php3?District=TX14&Category=0&Status=Career&VIPID=787

[MNJohnnie]

OPPS! Sorry! I stand corrected!

[italianquaker]

His too busy stuffing it with shrimp(lol)

[George W. Bush]

The ONLY person who has been consently serious about border security is Duncan Hunter. Paul is been on all sides of the issue on immigration.

Not at all. Duncan, Tancredo and Paul have all been very consistent. Tanc gets credit for being much more consistent and determined and trying to bring that message to more voters for a longer period. Hunter certainly gets credit for leadership on the border fence and for being very pointed in drawing attention to the lack of progress on it. And Ron Paul has been very consistent in supporting a closed-border and in opposing amnesties and welfare giveaways.

[ejonesie22]

I just want to stick the the facts, that’s all...

[LibLieSlayer]

Benedict paul is al qaeda’s best hope... second only to the beast... but he may even have her beat when it comes to surrendering and sticking our heads in the sand.

LLS

[LibLieSlayer]

paulites should have been banned after the last debate... PERMANENTLY!

LLS

[mnehring]

I think JimRob and company have to much fun watching them try to justify what Paul says and his moderate libertarian voting record as somehow uberConservative.. lol..

[ejonesie22]

Now now, lets not end the show Prematurely. After all the boss is even enjoying the show...

[Petronski]

Did you say . . . Thorazine?

[Badeye]

(chuckle)

[LibLieSlayer]

Hee hee hee! :-)

LLS

[Larry Lucido]

Folks are only coming across the border because we invaded Mexico, don’t you know.

[specsaregood]

I need to go back to work, will look at the other votes tonight, but a few thoughts:

#2 HR365? http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/110/bills/h_r_365/
“To provide for a research program for remediation of closed methamphetamine production laboratories, and for other purposes.”
Or do you have a link to another bill HR365?

HR1885: He disputes that it was or general amnesty
“Other provisions of HR 1885 will go a long way toward addressing your concerns regarding border control and security. For example this bill provides for at least 200 additional INS inspectors. and at least 200 additional investigators. It requires the establishment of a government-wide, electronic data-sharing system on persons with terrorist ties, that federal officials could use to determine whether to grant visa application or permit an individual to enter the U.S. In addition, the Justice Dept. will be required to establish a system to electronically track all foreign visa students in the United States. Finally, it would prohibit the issuance of temporary visas to citizens of nations considered to be state sponsors of terrorism, unless it has been determined that the alien does not pose a threat to the safety of American or U.S. national security.”

#4 I think you have your information incorrect, he voted YES, just like Hunter and Tancredo: http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/109/house/1/votes/661/

#5 listed in your post has nothing to do with border security or illegal immigration. It deals with legal immigrants. Those people are allowed to work here, so the government has no business dictating which legal residents a company can hire. Or are you for such things like racial-quotas being force upon companies by the federal government?

[ejonesie22]

I think its time to invest, looks like the demand is increasing rapidly..

[specsaregood]

What did I say that was fraudulent?
“Hunter wants to build a fence” ? Isn’t that true?
“I don’t see Hunter or Tancredo as Co-sponsors. (birthright citizenship legislation” He isn’t listed, I would be more than happy to be corrected if HE IS.

Where is the fraudulent statement?

[mnehring]

You may want to check your dates & what congress # a bill is before responding.. eg. #2 you looked at the 110th congressional record (2007.) The date on that bill is 2002, not 2007.

As for #4, here is the roll call vote on the Hunter Amendment for everyone to see the votes themselves.

http://clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.asp?year=2005&rollnumber=640

You’ll find Paul under the Nay column.