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I haven't read the motion, but I don't see mention of the "manifest injustice" prongs one puts in such a motion. Plus this whole bit about "I wanted it to go away so I plead guilty" makes him look like a complete idiot.
1 posted on 09/10/2007 9:21:23 AM PDT by King of Florida
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I didn’t know one even could withdraw a guilty plea!

Was he drunk at the time? What conditions made him guilty in the first place?


2 posted on 09/10/2007 9:23:06 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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This won’t do him a bit of good. He might as well just go ahead and resign.


3 posted on 09/10/2007 9:23:28 AM PDT by scan59 (Let consumers dictate market policies. Government just gets in the way.)
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Is the court asked to find Mr.Craig remained in that state of debilitating panic for two months ?


4 posted on 09/10/2007 9:25:48 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know. F Troop)
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The longer he drags this out the more it hurts the party, though I guess he could care less about that. The bell has already been rung, you can’t un-ring it Craig. Just resign and be done with it. You’ve been labeled a homo, nothing you could ever do is going to change that.


5 posted on 09/10/2007 9:26:20 AM PDT by stm (Fred Thompson in 08!)
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I don’t know that I’d like to be represented by a senator who admits that he panics under stress.


6 posted on 09/10/2007 9:26:36 AM PDT by PAR35
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I think he should withdraw the guilty plea, but that has nothing to do with him resigning. He should still resign for the sake of the party. He is tarnished goods now and a huge liability to the Republican party. It is obvious that he is just power hungry and just wants to hang on to his office regardless of whether is hurts the republicans. I think that is very selfish on his part.
10 posted on 09/10/2007 9:31:08 AM PDT by HwyChile
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Clearing your name is one thing. Fine, Ok. But something is creepy about this senators eagerness to stay in power. Why doesn’t this man just slink away with the dignity he has left, deservedly or not? I don’t know if he’s guilty of soliciting sex in a bathroom but I do know he’s put his family, especially his wife, through a horrendous ordeal and tremendous pain. Why doesn’t he just throw in the towel and stop the pain and suffering for his family? Does power mean that much? Creepy I tell ya, Creepy.


11 posted on 09/10/2007 9:31:41 AM PDT by coffee260 (coffee)
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...makes him look like a complete idiot.

Better stated...Confirms that he is a complete idiot.

12 posted on 09/10/2007 9:32:42 AM PDT by FreePaul
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I don't have a dog in this hunt, I don't like Craig for other reasons, but this whole embroglio is bogus. It's going to come back and bite the GOP big time. We're going to come across as both bigots (do we mind our own business, or do we hate homosexuals? I'd rather just mind my own business) and cowards (throwing Craig overboard so hastily).

People who have never been in trouble before can do profoundly foolish things upon being arrested.

It's not like those Goose Creek South Carolina terrorists who have been coached to smile winningly for the camera.

And getting arrested for making gestures in a restroom is a highly ambiguous thing to be arrested for.

I wish Craig would resign, but I also wish the rest of the party had not called on him to resign.

Especially "Keating Five" McCain.

13 posted on 09/10/2007 9:38:34 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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If only this poor, addle-brained man knew someone who deals with laws every day... no, wait, he's one of the people who writes laws every day.

In a "state of intense anxiety" following his arrest, Craig "felt compelled to grasp the lifeline offered to him by the police officer" and plead guilty in hopes the matter would not be made public,

So, he took a plea bargain to keep the case quiet. The case didn't stay quiet so he wants to take the plea back. I kind of hope the prosecutor jumps on him for the full soliciting charges now.

14 posted on 09/10/2007 9:40:54 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
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Craig is about to find out where following Arlen Specter’s advice gets you.

(He may have to widen his stance even further after this is all over.)


18 posted on 09/10/2007 9:55:06 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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Did anyone check to see if Craig really took a crap? I suppose that would be evidence of intent.


19 posted on 09/10/2007 9:59:21 AM PDT by sfvgto (is Marion Barry a democrat?)
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“so I plead guilty” makes him look like a complete idiot”

That terrible judgement alone makes him unfit to serve, regardless of his guilt or innocence on the “specific’s”


21 posted on 09/10/2007 10:07:56 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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I think the confession is going to be thrown out.

Article 1 // Section 6

They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.

Toe-tapping in the stall is not Treason, it’s not a Felony, and it’s not Breach of the Peace. And I believe IIRC he was taking a flight home after delivering a speech in the Senate. So I think he’s covered.

But he deserves double scorn for being arrested... and then NOT knowing the Constitution.


24 posted on 09/10/2007 10:14:56 AM PDT by Canali
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I think this is Mark Foley all over again, we’ve got to stop letting the press crucify Republican politicians based on whispered innuendo baked up by the ‘Rats! The only way this is going to stop is by fighting back.


28 posted on 09/10/2007 10:26:01 AM PDT by Justice4Reds
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I see one of two scenarios...

1) He has proven he’s too stupid and panic-prone to lead.

- or -

2) He believes his constituents (and the rest of the country) are stupid enough to believe his threadbare story.

Frankly, I don’t care who he likes to boff. My problem is that he’s obviously lying or stupid. Either way, he shouldn’t be in a position of leadership.

And, if he was actually involved in the types of behavior of which he’s been accused, he’s far too irresponsible to draft national policy. Having a wide stance and happy feet in a public restroom is just asking for all kinds of trouble.


29 posted on 09/10/2007 10:28:36 AM PDT by GimpySadan (Redistribution of wealth? Sure...you first.)
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If he took a sh*t, you must acqu*t


32 posted on 09/10/2007 10:33:11 AM PDT by aspidistra
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I had a long talk last night with a friend who’s a sheriff in Idaho. Strong republican, voted for Craig. However, he says Craig needs to resign and go away. Pleading guilty makes him guilty. Period.

Friend would have forgiven him for being gay, even for doing tacky things in the airport stall, if he’d apologized for it. But under no circumstances will he forgive Craig for LYING.


40 posted on 09/10/2007 11:28:40 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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All he did was blow out his O-ring looking for his lucky charms and asking for a courtesy flush.


41 posted on 09/10/2007 11:46:20 AM PDT by - Smokestack Lightning (Antonio Gramsci and the Frankfort School, may you rot in hell for all eternity..)
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Has he thought the possible consequences of this action any more thoroughly than his original act and plea?

I doubt it.

If he is successful in overturning the guilty plea is he prepared to face prosecution and to defend himself against all of the original charges in open court?

At the least that will ensure that the few people who haven’t already heard of his homosexual trolling will get all of the details in the morning paper and the evening news for many weeks as the trial runs its course.


43 posted on 09/10/2007 12:20:56 PM PDT by Iron Munro
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