Posted on 09/10/2007 8:01:24 AM PDT by doug from upland
I disagree. The terrorists desire to cause as much anguish as they can with as little danger to themselves as possible. Only in places like NYC with weapons bans could they consider themselves safe enough to go into shopping malls and stadiums. In my state you can carry a concealed gun. If they can’t be sure of who is armed, they won’t take the chance. They are cowards and it’s not worth it to them to possibly die without achieving their objective.
But we have outlawed guns at schools, particularly elementary, middle, and high schools. I read that their ideal situation is having the girls old enough to rape while the boys are too young to stop them. Elementary and middle school would seem to fit the age range they are looking for. But, I am sure they looked very closely at what happened at VA Tech. Since no guns were allowed there.
There are other things that have happened that point to them looking to hit our schools, and I have no doubt that they desire to strike where the terror would be greatest — our children.
If what I saw yesterday is typical, you’ll be pleased to hear that it might be difficult to pull off at a large sporting event. I just went to the Steelers-Browns game in Cleveland yesterday, and was pleased to see that bags were searched (often dumped into plastic bags), metal detectors were used and everyone was patted down. I don’t see how a bomber or someone attempting mass casualties could have made it through the gates - the most they could have done was hurt a number of people as they gathered to go through security.
Glenn Beck perfect day ping
I don’t call vigilanteism I call it a 2nd Amendment Right to self defence.In most states your allowed to defend your life or the life of another in order to use deadly force.
What’s Beck been drinking.
This artical proves to me that the United States is not prepared for another terrorist attack.All we do is waste money on a big Bureaucracy.
I’m afraid were going to lose a lot more people because of that.
Let this come true, and Muslims throughout this country will be in grave danger as mothers and fathers take to the streets. Do not hurt my kids!
Bush and Clinton were forewarned about 9/11. This is NO time to screw around.
Very succinct.
Based on the news from our local mega-school-district (next county over from mine), they could get by on pure incompetence.
It’s amazing how quick they are to dismiss the possibility of terrorism.
If you like, you can show me and everyone else he evidence that the National Education (sic) Association is NOT a leftist institution reflexively antiAmerican and opposed to Judaeo-Christian values, that Planned Barrenhood has not influenced gummint skewel curricula generally and that TAX-PAID gummint skewels are not the parochial skewels and training grounds of the leftist enemies of this country and of the religious values of most Americans.
You have a right to educate or miseducate your children as you see fit. You do NOT have a right to tax others to fund the specific antiAmerican and antiChristian choice you have made any more than Catholic families like mine have a right to tax you for our schools or to support homeschooling. Like any other welfare recipient, you defend your ill-gotten subsidies. Don't expect them not to be attacked by those forced at the point of the gummint's gun to subsidize the disgrace that is PS 666. And , NO, I don't believe in vouchers either.
It wasn't a religious school that was grabbed by the Islamofascisti in Russia but a gummint skewel there too.
You and I are free to post here. Neither of us is free to post and to demand no response. If you cannot articulate a defense of your precious gummint skewels, that is understandable and to be expected given their nature. If you don't choose to make whatever defense may be possible, that is your choice. Gummint skewels remain an enemy of America and of faith in any event.
I don't think that gummint skewels are the only target, just the primary one. If you see busloads of Orthodox Jewish grammar school children blown up by the Islamofascisti, you will either understand that they will target gummint skewels here or you will wear blinders.
As to my choice of words: "Gummint skewels" is a phrase and pronunciation of despicably pro-gummint skewel retired US Senator Fritz Hollings. The rest are my own. I will word my posts my way and you word yours as you see fit. We are not here empowered to edit one another.
I am interested in opposing any defense of gummint skewels by you or anyone else, and in attacking them as the evil institutions that they surely are. If you choose to ignore me, I could not care less. When someone wishes to defend the indefensible, there is no purpose in "conversation." Instead, there is reason to denounce error (remembering that we are to hate the sin and not the sinner). If you defend gummint socialized skeweling, I will, to that extent, not ignore your posts. If you were ever to post something actually conservative, I would probably have no reason to respond except to congratulate particularly commendable posts of that sort.
The late and greater Mayor Daley told the press and media in 1968: "I have been vilified. I have been crucified. I have even been CRITICIZED!!!" He was not the last to have been troubled by such concerns or, apparently, to feel an unjustified sense of deprivation of "rights" not his to complain about.
If some of the police had their own children killed in such an attack, all bets are off that the mosques will be police protected...at least thouroughly. The government cannot deploy enough soldiers to react to 50 million or so citizens up in arms...the government will have to “protectively” deport or encamp them just to keep them away from the genral populace!
Never say never....9/11 was a very clever exploitation of weaknesses in our security!
“FBI Puts Local Officials on Notice About Extremists Trying to Sign Up to Be School Bus Drivers”
“There is no plot. There is no threat. And parents and children can feel perfectly safe”
What did they do...hire Baghdad Bob to be press spokesman at the FBI?
It would be open season,and the resulting massacre would be without equal in US history
I agree. Touch our kids, you’d better pray you don’t look like a middle eastern male.
I have no defense for Planned Parenthood. I have not, nor have I ever been a supporter.
I do not have the power to take one penny away from any other citizen in the United States. The officials elected have that power.
I have my own opinion of vouchers, but that is not the subject, therefore, I will not express my opinion at this time.
I do not and have never defended public schools as a whole. I have defended the ones that my children attended. I've read enough anecdotes and heard first-hand accounts of some schools that should be razed to the ground.
You and I are indeed free to post anything we like to whomever we like. As was made clear in another thread. FR does not have a 'bozo filter' as they are for wimps. However, if you wish to converse with me, you will do so in the manner of my choosing, as I am not required to post back to you.
Your empty, useless, needless rhetoric continues. It does not have to be this way. I have had numerous civil conversations with many home-schoolers, including the ones you pinged in this post. If we lived near each other and time allowed us to do so, I believe I would be friends with both of those pinged as I value their opinions and respect their level-headedness.
Back to the subject at hand, and my original post to which you picked out of all them to which to respond, if you think that because you home-school your children are 'safe' from terrorists then you are lying to yourself. We are all at risk because we are Americans, not because we use public transportation, public schools, work in an office building, shop at a mall, or attend a church. Some of the terrorists plans even indicate drive-by killings at golf courses. Others, to sporting events, airports, office buildings, and yes public schools were also included on the list. I do not choose to live my life in fear. I will go to work tomorrow just like every other day, as will my husband.
Should you wish to post back to me using non-inflammatory language, I would congratulate you for a thought-out reasoned post and then respond in kind and perhaps we would find that there are areas in which we could learn from each other. But life is too short for me to worry with teaching another adult the art of reasoned arguments.
I have my tagline for a reason. There is indeed truth in it.
Have a nice day.
Safer. And not just from terrorists. You have only to google the words "school threat" to see the tons of hits just in the last few weeks.
Considering the incidents surrounding schools buses and middle eastern looking men, I would have to disagree.
The other reason is that kids spend far more time in school than they do anywhere else. It’s predictable, anyone can find out the school schedule, and the kids are guaranteed to be there for several hours per day, 5 days a week. If I run to the mall or go to a sporting event, it’s a few hours at most and not regularly. I’m not there very often, so my chances of being there when something happens are comparatively slim.
You’re right that an attack at a sporting event or crowded mall would get a bigger kill, but for managability, a school would be an easier target. It would just be far stupider for them to go after our kids. They wouldn’t want to face the backlash.
Sorry, I do feel that my kids are safer from a terrorist attack being homeschooled simply because they’re spending less time out of the house. That alone reduces the risk.
I agree. I understand the concern about not increasing the death count by not going in, but Breslin showed us that they’ll kill anyway. Better take them out and hope for the best, than let THEM control the situation and almost guarantee a higher death count.
God help the kids in their hands.
Had the Eagle court of honor a few weeks ago, btw. I think you will enjoy it when your time comes.
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