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Sen. Craig seeks to withdraw guilty plea
AP via MSNBC ^ | September 9, 2007 | AP

Posted on 09/09/2007 6:03:52 PM PDT by John W

WASHINGTON - Sen. Larry Craig will file court documents Monday asking to withdraw his guilty plea in a sex sting that seems likely to end his career, his attorney said.

Craig, an Idaho Republican, pleaded guilty in August to disorderly conduct following a sting operation in a men’s bathroom at the Minneapolis airport.

He has said he regrets that decision, which he said he made hastily and without talking to an attorney. He said he was under stress and pleaded guilty only to put the matter behind him.

Attorney William Martin said Sunday night that a request to withdraw that plea would be filed Monday. Such requests are rarely granted. Martin would not discuss the argument he planned to make in court.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: 110th; filmactorsguild; gay; gaynotgay; larrycraig; neverhasbengay; notafilmactorsguild; notgay
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To: shrinkermd
Common sense. Many of Craig's actions in that airport mens room had legitimate explanations and I said so on previous threads. All those actions right up to the point that his foot extended into the other stall and his hand went along the bottom of the divider. Unless he magically transformed into a white-gloved drill sergeant performing a latrine inspection, there is NO logical explanation on God's Green Earth for the latter act. None whatsoever. Even the foot fault is a complete breach of mens room etiquette that every male has learned since grammar school. Period. It screams pervert. He didn't deny the contact, he claimed "wide stance." Oh, please.

And I sure hope you are from Maryland.

61 posted on 09/09/2007 7:25:42 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: shrinkermd
I am just worried about Mpls and the adjoining area.

I, on the other hand, am worried about the survival of the American people.

62 posted on 09/09/2007 7:27:02 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (IF TREASON IS THE QUESTION, THEN MOVEON.ORG IS THE ANSWER!)
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To: shrinkermd

“He had no legal requirement to report anything about a misdemeanor to anyone. If you disagree show me the Senate Rule that specifies that this is required”.

If you cannot understand the ethical obligation, serving in one of the most highest offices in the country, what can I say to you.

To answer your specific remark, I do not know enough about senate rules to offer an opinion either way.

As a member of a profession that requires reporting ANY guilty plea or conviction, I would expect the same for someone holding one of the highest offices in the land.

Aapparently, the Senate GOP leadership felt they had an obligation to report it to the ethic’s committee and did so promptly.


63 posted on 09/09/2007 7:28:59 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: shrinkermd
Note, how everyone is anxious, angry and upset at just the thought that Senator Craig will try to have his day in court. It must say something more about those anxious and angry than it does about Senator Craig.

Oh, how you love to psychoanalyze those who disagree with you...

64 posted on 09/09/2007 7:29:34 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Well, male homosexuals are no more than 4% of the population at any given time. For females the figure is 2%. These have been stable for decades. Actually, at one time it was claimed that 10% of men were homosexuals; this was later found to be incorrect.

Don’t worry, the homosexuals aren’t going to take over even the men’s restrooms let alone the country.


65 posted on 09/09/2007 7:31:06 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: LibFreeOrDie

No, I leave you to draw your own conclusions about your own motives and behavior. It is just hard to understand the anxiety and rage wasted on Senator Craig’s tawdry behavior.


66 posted on 09/09/2007 7:32:59 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

Hmmm...interesting...obviously Craig felt the officer didn’t know he was a public figure if he gave him his business card.

On the other hand, I’ve wondered why the officer didn’t wait until sex was actually solicited. Maybe the profile is that the solicitors are married men (or would otherwise be ruined by even a not guilty verdict if that meant public airing of the charges), and they’d rather plead guilty to say, disorderly conduct than defend themselves.


67 posted on 09/09/2007 7:33:52 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: shrinkermd
No, I leave you to draw your own conclusions about your own motives and behavior.

No, you did the same thing on a Fred Thompson thread yesterday. When you could no longer respond rationally, you dissed other folks' psyches.

It is just hard to understand the anxiety and rage wasted on Senator Craig’s tawdry behavior.

You've used more bandwidth on this thread than any other poster. Who's the angry one?

68 posted on 09/09/2007 7:38:54 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: shrinkermd
the homosexuals aren’t going to take over even the men’s restrooms let alone the country.

No but the Dems may, and that means the Islamofascists will. Larry Craig in the public mind makes both of these more probable.

70 posted on 09/09/2007 7:52:13 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (IF TREASON IS THE QUESTION, THEN MOVEON.ORG IS THE ANSWER!)
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To: shrinkermd
For females the figure is 2%. These have been stable for decades.

Perhaps in your profession you have come across definite figures to prove this. It is my subjective impression that the number of lesbians, particularly very masculine-seeming lesbians, has greatly increased over the past several decades. As there is some evidence that some lesbians were exposed to higher levels of testosterone in utero, I have wondered if a change in the environment might be responsible.

71 posted on 09/09/2007 7:53:34 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: elkfersupper

Well they all do. Just whom do you plan to murder first?


72 posted on 09/09/2007 7:53:59 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (IF TREASON IS THE QUESTION, THEN MOVEON.ORG IS THE ANSWER!)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Just whom do you plan to murder first?

I don't plan on murdering anybody. Somebody, somewhere should be tried and incarcerated for this kind of crap.

If there was a crime committed here, where is the victim?

73 posted on 09/09/2007 7:56:52 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: shrinkermd

Defending Craig, promoting Giuliani and dissing Thompson — either you have an unusual slant on conservatism or you just like arguing with people.


74 posted on 09/09/2007 7:58:45 PM PDT by Steve_Stifler
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To: elkfersupper
where is the victim?

The public safety, in the same sense that public prostitution in a residential neighborhood is a danger to the public safety. While technically always illegal, normally vice crimes are only enforced when the activity is publicly observable.

To put it another way, no one would arrest a couple having sex in their bedroom, but if they do it in their car in a public parking lot, they are subject to arrest.

75 posted on 09/09/2007 8:03:23 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (IF TREASON IS THE QUESTION, THEN MOVEON.ORG IS THE ANSWER!)
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To: John W
Sen. Craig seeks to withdraw guilty plea

Expel him from the GOP.

Tell him he can be a Senator of the Democratic Party, The Independents,
or The Gay Toe-Tapper Party.
76 posted on 09/09/2007 8:05:28 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
One more time.

Where and who is the victim?

77 posted on 09/09/2007 8:07:39 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper
Where and who is the victim?

Every member of the public who might ever come to Minneapolis. Their name is 'Everyman'.

78 posted on 09/09/2007 8:10:32 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (IF TREASON IS THE QUESTION, THEN MOVEON.ORG IS THE ANSWER!)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Every member of the public who might ever come to Minneapolis. Their name is 'Everyman'..

If every man can't fight their way into and out of a Minneapolis men's room full of dangerous homos, they need to go outside and pee in the flowerbed.

79 posted on 09/09/2007 8:14:41 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

OK, as a disabled male person (an amputee), who has relatives in Minnesota, I believe that this behavior endangers me. I would be more than happy to swear out a warrant, submit a deposition, or testify against Craig under oath.


80 posted on 09/09/2007 8:24:31 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (IF TREASON IS THE QUESTION, THEN MOVEON.ORG IS THE ANSWER!)
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