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CA: Leading conservative derides Schwarzenegger views (Sen. Tom McClintock)
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 9/9/07 | Michael R. Blood - ap

Posted on 09/09/2007 1:45:52 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: stephenjohnbanker

It would be nice to see California Republicans unite around the idea of winning elections.


21 posted on 09/09/2007 2:43:04 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Clintonfatigued

McClintock REALLY wants to save California. He figures the best way to do that is to stay in California politics.


22 posted on 09/09/2007 2:46:31 PM PDT by sheana
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To: NormsRevenge

“Gov. Schwarzenegger was advocating Republican solutions,” Mendelsohn said. “We cannot continue to ignore the issues Californians care about.”

Translation: Carbon Credit Trading markets are “markets” and thereby conservative or republican or etc. etc.

Arnold is pushing hard for this inevitably criminal trading scheme.


23 posted on 09/09/2007 3:01:19 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: EGPWS
What an idiotic thing to say, let alone impressing that tossing conviction to the wayside is OK.

This is what baffles me about the anointment of Rudy Giuliani as the presumptive GOP nominee. At least Arnold is basically Austrian in economic matters.

24 posted on 09/09/2007 3:11:40 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: ClaireSolt

BUMP that!


25 posted on 09/09/2007 3:14:37 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Woo hah! That's the speech conservatives where waiting to hear! Tom McClintock really brought the house down at the party's convention.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

26 posted on 09/09/2007 3:15:54 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: NormsRevenge

“That would create 53 races, each with one electoral vote up for grabs. President Bush carried 22 of those districts in 2004, while losing the statewide vote by double digits.”

That would certainly be great for Republicans. Why did Arnold object?


27 posted on 09/09/2007 3:19:45 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Reagan dismantled the Russian empire of 21 conquered nations)
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To: marron

McClintock is one maybe a few (<4) politicians who not only says things that are sane, but actually seems to understand what the average Joe and Jane do in their daily lives. I think he needs to leave Kalifornia and move somewhere he can get elected to the US Senate.


28 posted on 09/09/2007 3:42:04 PM PDT by Clock King (Bring the noise!)
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To: liege; REDWOOD99; stillonaroll; Right Cal Gal; whinecountry; b9; antceecee; atomic_dog; AVNevis; ...

PING!

McClintock Ping List.
Please freepmail me if you want on or off this list


29 posted on 09/09/2007 3:43:48 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: NormsRevenge
Leading conservative derides Schwarzenegger views

I'm not finding anything that "derided" Schwarzenegger in the AP quotes. Disagreeing with Schwarzie's misdirected liberalism and stating the obvious is now considered ridicule?

On Saturday, party Chairman Ron Nehring steered around questions on Schwarzenegger's assessment of the party's future.

That is very disappointing. Following in the footsteps of Dufus Sundheim?

30 posted on 09/09/2007 3:47:42 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Ceebass
He was a good man until he lost those ballot initiatives.

No, he wasn't. Please look at the record again. He accomplished a whole slew of leftist actions, long before the ballot initiatives. Land grabs, record spending, unconstitutional debt (until he changed the constitution), leftist appointments, etc. His environmental policy and global warming nonsense was written by RFKjr (another "good man"?) before he was even elected. He blamed the ballot initiative losses on conservatives as an excuse to continue implementing his leftist agenda--nothing more.

31 posted on 09/09/2007 3:54:32 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Thanks!


32 posted on 09/09/2007 4:08:48 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: NormsRevenge

the governator’s more plausible when he’s

slapping bonnie garcia’s butt.


33 posted on 09/09/2007 4:32:20 PM PDT by ken21
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To: calcowgirl; Ceebass
>> He was a good man until he lost those ballot initiatives. No, he wasn't. Please look at the record again. He accomplished a whole slew of leftist actions, long before the ballot initatives. Land grabs, record spending, unconstitutional debt (until he changed the constitution), leftist appointments, etc. His environmental policy and global warming nonsense was written by RFKjr (another "good man"?) before he was even elected. He blamed the ballot initiative losses on conservatives as an excuse to continue implementing his leftist agenda--nothing more. <<

Part of the reason Schwartzenkennedy lost those ballot initiatives was his fiscal liberalism.

Had Arnold been an real "fiscal conservative" concerned about the state dolling out unnecessary funds, he would have simply waited a few more months until an ACTUAL election to place well-written, concrete reform measures on the ballot.

Instead, he wasted billions in taxpayers money on YET ANOTHER "special election" to rush out a bunch of half-a$$ed quickly written proposals (some of which amounted to rearranging deck chairs on the Titantic), and then spent billions more to try and drag people out to the polls during a non-campaign season to vote on his "reforms", and it blew up in his face. When it comes to GOTV, California Dems (and their special interests) far outnumber California Republican, and Arnold was an idiot not to see it.

He's spent most of the last year apologizing for his idiocy. That's commendable, except Arnold doesn't realize that having change by referendum votes was a good idea on paper, but his execution of the plan was completely flawed.

It's good to see McClintock calling Arnie on his liberalism. Now Tom needs to admit to HIS voters that he too, erred in 2006, when he cast his lot with Arnie and finally drunk the "RINOs will deliever the state to the rest of the party" kool-aid. It's never been true, not in 1998, not in 2002, not in 2003, and certainly not in 2006. RINOs "deliever" for NOBODY but the left.

Time to come to terms with that, Tom. You were spot on about it in 2003.

34 posted on 09/09/2007 5:21:40 PM PDT by BillyBoy (FACT: Governors win. Senators DON'T. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it)
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To: NormsRevenge

The only place Tom has lead is over a cliff into obscurity.


35 posted on 09/09/2007 5:55:39 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Pope to politicians: "(Do) not to allow children to be considered as a form of illness.")
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To: Ceebass
He was a good man until he lost those ballot initiatives.

Considering that the Austrian's first dalliance into California politics was the promotion of Prop 49 and his first, official, campaign speech as a gubernatorial candidate stressed the preservation and expansion of social programs (our programs), it's difficult to attribute the remark in reply #12 to anything but a profound ignorance of California's recent political history ... unless the author is a liberal.

36 posted on 09/09/2007 6:00:40 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: NormsRevenge

Day of the Locust, baby...


37 posted on 09/09/2007 6:02:40 PM PDT by Melinator (testing... test, test, test, Is this thing on?)
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To: BillyBoy
Time to come to terms with that, Tom.

Spot on!!

Until and unless the Senator has a come to Jesus moment with his constituents regarding his recent capitulation to the dark side, he will remain faintly tainted as just another political whore in the same vein as the Austrian.

Few blame the Senator, the pressure applied by the Wilsonegger Gang, Sundheim and his party apparatchiks and the CAGOP's New Majority financiers was tremendous, but a public acknowledgment of the obvious would clear the air and make his current observations more credible.

38 posted on 09/09/2007 6:12:25 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: newzjunkey

lol, you prefer massive debt and borrowing?


39 posted on 09/09/2007 6:24:33 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE)
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To: Amerigomag

whatever


40 posted on 09/09/2007 8:40:43 PM PDT by Ceebass
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