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Governors on the airwaves spread cynicism (vintage article about Howie Carr, etc.)
JerryWilliams.org ^ | 11/20/1989 | Scot Lehigh

Posted on 09/09/2007 5:36:58 AM PDT by raccoonradio

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Originally in the Boston Globe. Jay Severin, for the record, has nicknamed the author as "Scat He-Lies". I'm posting this because it's interesting info (Howie Carr ping list will be pinged) about Jerry and the man who helped him get into radio, Jerry Williams. We grew up with Jerry, who was originally seen as a liberal but later re-branded himself a populist.

Jerry would rail about hacks and cronies, fees, fines, and taxes, and Gov. Dukakis running for President ("Unelectable...", sang one of Jerry's listeners, to the tune of "Unforgettable"). Sound like a modern liberal to you?

By the way I read someone's comment about Margery Eagan's recent column about Jon Keller's new book The Bluest State--apparently there's a bit in there about angry libs marching to Barbara Anderson's house to protest her involvement in trying to reduce taxes (Citizens for Ltd. Taxation). They're suprised to find this big conservative figure had a really...modest...house in Marblehead (and wasn't home, she was at work).

My God! The big bad conservative actually wasn't living in a mansion? She was out...working? (not on a trust fund like the libs!) :)

The article does mention the activism Jerry had engendered: get out there and call your Legislator! Not necessarily used these days.

Nynex= the then-current name for the local phone company.

Lehigh felt apparently that talk radio hosts like Jerry (and Barbara and Howie, regular guests at the time) would be "cutting their own throats" because people would be angry for a different reason: tax cuts would mean many service cuts. In other words, big government is what really matters, acc. to him.

And (conservative) talk radio has NOT died...

>>It was, as the State House idiom goes, "classic Howie." Which means two things: funny and unfair.

No, funny and COMPLETELY fair. Unfair in the minds of the hacks, maybe.

Howie: ""My feeling is I am like a sports fan at a game," Carr said. "I pay my money to get in here, I pay my money every week in taxes, I think I have a right to boo who I want to boo since I bought the ticket."

1 posted on 09/09/2007 5:37:02 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: Andonius_99; Andy'smom; Antique Gal; Big Guy and Rusty 99; bitt; Barset; Carolinamom; Cheapskate; ..

Howie Carr list ping. Scroll down in this article to see what was written about Howie in 1989, before he got his regular
show. (Keep in mind it was from the Globe, though...)

After doing a morning show on WRKO Howie moved to WHDH AM
850 which I believe was made the sister station of WRKO
at that time—Howie was placed in afternoons, right
opposite Jerry, despite the common ownership IIRC). Then
Howie came back to ‘RKO (it was right around this time
of year, Sept. of ‘94 I think?) in what WAS Jerry’s slot.
Jerry was moved to mornings and then weekends and then
off the air.

Wish I’d saved the tape, but I did tape part of Howie’s
first show back on WRKO (I remember John Sebastian’s
“Welcome Back” was played as bumper music, etc.)

WHDH 850 (heritage call letters) was scuttled the weekend
before (complete with a toilet flush) and the sports
programming of WEEI 590 moved to 850. Rush and Howie
moved from 850 to 680 as part of the move.


2 posted on 09/09/2007 5:40:59 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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oops, that should say interesting info about HOWIE and the man who got him into radio!

here’s Howie’s column from today’s Herald.

Baby Flats busted in ex-prez lane

by Howie Carr/Boston Herald/ 9/9/07

The hack du jour is former Boston City Council president Michael Flaherty. Key word: former.

Baby Flats, as he’s known to distinguish him from his father, ex-judge and ex-Rep. Michael “Flats” Flaherty, is still a city councilor. And this third-generation payroll patriot pulled a vehicular variation of the old do-you-know-who-I-am routine at the funeral of hero firefighter Paul Cahill in West Roxbury on Thursday.

Baby Flats used an expired city parking placard to park where he shouldn’t have, blocking a Boston Fire Department vehicle for his own convenience. If you or I had pulled such a stunt, we’d have been towed. But then, they don’t know who we are, do they?

Most pols instinctively understand that you have to be on your best behavior at a funeral. At the wake, you arrive either very early or very late, to avoid having to wait in line to pay your respects. At the funeral itself, you sit either at the very front or the very back of the church, the better to be observed in pious reflection by your constituents. Most importantly, you never, ever block anyone else’s car, especially a public-safety vehicle.

I’m sure Baby Flats would have preferred an inconspicuous parking space. But the mourners were SRO and, dammit, he is a Very Important Person. This is a guy whose staff once called the Coast Guard to demand that they hunt him down on a fishing boat.

Don’t you know who he is?

Here’s what happened Thursday. After the emotional funeral Mass for Cahill, his casket was placed in the hearse and the funeral procession departed for the cemetery. Everyone began filing out of the church, including the members of the Boston City Council, most of whom had taken a bus from City Hall so they wouldn’t have to hog a parking space that might otherwise go to a grief-stricken family member, friend or fellow jake.

One of the first people out of the church was Maureen Feeney, who’s the current president of the Boston City Council. Key word: current.

As she walked down the church stairs, a fire captain approached her, and this account is confirmed by two witnesses, although neither Feeney nor Baby Flats returned phone calls Friday.

“Madame President,” the captain said, respectfully. “I have to ask you to please move your car. It’s blocking the arson-squad car.”

Madame President was puzzled. Her car, after all, was parked in the garage at City Hall downtown. She had arrived in Ward 20 on the bus.

“I didn’t bring . . .” she began, before she realized who the real culprit was. “Captain, what kind of car is it that’s blocking you in? Is it an SUV by any chance?”

“A black Mercury Mountaineer,” the captain said. “I thought it was yours. There’s a placard on the dashboard that says ‘City Council President.’ ”

He was right about that. But right under ‘City Council President’ was the number ‘2006.’ Do you care to guess who the council president was last year?

Feeney scanned the crowd streaming out of Holy Name. Down on the sidewalk she spotted Baby Flats.

“Mr. President,” Madame President told him. “Move your car!”

And he quickly slithered away.

The thing about being president of the City Council is that it is the ultimate nothing job, unless the mayor decides to take a powder in the middle of his term, the chances of which in Mumbles’ case are slim, fat and none.

The late Freddy Langone once memorably likened being president of the City Council to being an admiral in the Swiss navy. At least give Feeney credit for understanding the status limitations of her position. That’s why she took the bus. As for Baby Flats, the only thing sadder than trying to cash in on the job of council president is trying to cash in on being the former council president.

Baby Flats, forget about ever asking, “Do you know who I am?”

Repeat after me, “Do you know who I was?”


3 posted on 09/09/2007 5:42:56 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

Jerry was at his best when he was railing about the Big Dig. Turns out, he was right. Again, not terribly liberal.


4 posted on 09/09/2007 5:50:20 AM PDT by Reaganesque (Romney for President 2008)
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To: raccoonradio
Jerry Williams was great and I've heard Howie acknowledge that he owes a lot to Jerry.

"Not a bad guy"...."I'm getting *out* of the business"..."I never had a dinner" (which turned out to be true).The way RKO fired Jerry was disgraceful!

5 posted on 09/09/2007 5:51:04 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If martyrdom is so cool,why does Osama Obama go to such great lengths to avoid it?)
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To: raccoonradio
It's the self-styled "governors of the commonwealth"

Scat, he lies.

Actually, they simply adopted Dukasis' chacterization. The Duke's response to their critism was to assert that the Commonwealth had one Governor, not three. When Howie and Barbara were guests on Jerry's show they called themselves "The Three Governors" in dirision.

6 posted on 09/09/2007 5:55:51 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: raccoonradio
You forgot to mention that [Rep.] Mark Roosevelt abandoned MA, and is now screwing up the PittPa schools, iirc.

Can't remember what happened that his name made it back into the spotlight, though.

7 posted on 09/09/2007 5:57:30 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: raccoonradio

Great column. The libs fear anyone brave enough to hold the spotlight on them. Keep it going, Cap’n!!!


8 posted on 09/09/2007 5:57:36 AM PDT by islander-11 (Save Nantucket - Vote Republican!!!)
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To: Reaganesque

Liberal has changed to “statist”, or “moonbat” these
days.
Ironically enough wasn’t the Dem party for fiscal
responsibility way back when? Smaller government? “That that governs least, governs best.”

Jerry on the Big Dig, after he was proved to be right:

“I told you so.”


9 posted on 09/09/2007 5:59:24 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: Calvin Locke

Interesting stat from Wikipedia:

* Massachusetts gubernatorial election, 1994
o William Weld (R) (inc.), 71%
o Mark Roosevelt (D), 28%

Would you believe it. A Dem getting 28 per cent, and
a Republican 71 per cent—in Massachusetts!


10 posted on 09/09/2007 6:01:12 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

I lived in Boston during this period and listened to “the governors” regularly.


11 posted on 09/09/2007 6:03:15 AM PDT by NCBraveheart
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

That was a great move, turning Dukakis’ words right back
on him.
Remember Howie making fun of MSD as “Pee Wee”?

Jerry would have an impersonator on—Jim Flaherty, I
think his name is?—doing the Duke complete with all
the “errs” and “very, very”s. Once Flaherty was on
with Brudnoy and I called in. He joked (in the Duke’s
voice) about turning the Golden Dome of the State House
upside down and having people throw money in, etc.
One reg. joke he did: “We’ll er, er, look at the
numbers and talk to the people, and then we’ll
talk to the numbers and look at the people.”


12 posted on 09/09/2007 6:04:03 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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< chuckle> No one’s usless. Dukasis had his virtues. He was a constant source of amusement. Expensive amusement, but amusement nonetheless.


13 posted on 09/09/2007 6:07:50 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Yes but when a new regime came into WRKO they let Jerry
do one last goodbye show. I have it on tape. March of ‘03
I think? Jerry died a couple months later (and I have
Howie’s tribute show from around then)

I also remember Jerry trying to do a show on “WMEX AM 1060”
(now a biz talk station). he sounded confused and a bit
slow; some of it may have been trying to get used to
a new station/board but he also was suffering from some
kind of disease—Parkinsons or something—and that may have been a part of it.

Jerry’s obit in the Globe

http://www.boston.com/news/daily/29/williams_obit.htm

-—Chip Ford of Citizens for Limited Taxation credits his entry into political activism to Williams’ campaign on the seat belt issue.

“He had his finger on the pulse of the average citizen, the taxpayer,” Ford said. “And they loved him because he was speaking for them. He was saying things they didn’t have the voice to say.”

Williams’ cantankerous style and populist views made him popular among listeners but often infuriated politicians and public officials. He became an especially harsh critic of then-Gov. Michael Dukakis.

“He would take his prisoners and he would fight his battles to the end,” said Lyle. “But he always led with his heart. He was very passionate, very expressive.”

He recalled how Williams would leap out of his chair when he got excited or riled up, and flail his hands around as he talked, whether he was behind the microphone or in public.

Williams was able to score important interviews at WROL, Fritz said, such as getting Malcolm X on his show at a time when the civil rights leader didn’t like talking to the media.

He was also one of the first people, back in the 1980s, to be “yelling and screaming” about Boston’s Big Dig highway project, accurately predicting that it couldn’t be finished on time or on budget, Ford said.


14 posted on 09/09/2007 6:11:12 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Dukasis had his virtues.

Do you mean having policies like letting convicted murderers out on weekend passes to take up where they had to leave off, for the most part, while in prison?

Of course, I think the RINO Weld pardoned (commuted sentences to time served?) women (7 iirc) that killed their sleeping husbands.

15 posted on 09/09/2007 7:08:26 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: raccoonradio
These show's sound like they were a real hoot!

Do any of these shows survive?

16 posted on 09/09/2007 10:26:48 AM PDT by Cheapskate ( Celebrate Sept.8 as Pajamatag , the day the pajamahadeem busted Dan Rather!!)
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To: raccoonradio

Weld was a RINO. And yes, I voted for him. Twice. I admit in one primary, I grabbed a Dem ballot and voted for Silber. Silber’s main competition was the Sec O’ State, and that guy just turned my stomach, especially when I found out he profited from insurers leaving the state.


17 posted on 09/09/2007 11:26:20 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Cheapskate

I don’t know if any of the “Governors” shows survived,
but maybe they’re on the http://www.jerrywilliams.org site
which does have some clips of him on the various stations
he was on.

I do have Jerry’s “last show” from March of ‘03 as well
as Howie’s tribute to him, etc. I don’t know (due
to copyright) if I can podcast those. Maybe someday.
(I’d have to play from cass. back in real time to my comp
and then upload.) I also have “VB’s last show” from July
of ‘03 IIRC (Both on Howie’s show on VB’s Pleasure Pit)

One Howie show I saved on cass. was the day after
election day, 2004. “It’s the day after the night
before” as Jerry used to say.


18 posted on 09/09/2007 2:31:27 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio
Those were the days of great talk radio and why I still follow Howie. Thanks for the memories.
19 posted on 09/09/2007 2:57:56 PM PDT by Lexi3130 (We need a proven businessman to run this country NOT a politician!)
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To: raccoonradio

If I remember correctly Jerry’s last show was on a weekend -am I correct?


20 posted on 09/09/2007 3:00:48 PM PDT by Lexi3130 (We need a proven businessman to run this country NOT a politician!)
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