Pope blasts Europeans for not having enough children

AFP ^ | 09-08-2007

[jas3]

His is a different vocation. For those of us whose vocation is marriage, we have an obligation to reproduce.

There are very many people that I would very much rather that they do not reproduce.

jas3

[Scotswife]

Ok - then why did you feel it necessary to point out the obvious?

[steadfastconservative]

What a tiresome, fallacious argument you are making, namely that because the pope doesn’t have children, he is not competent to speak on this issue. Your argument is analogous to saying that only married people can comment on adultery or only women can have opinions on abortion. Your whole argument is flawed and rather ridiculous.

[jas3]

Ok - then why did you feel it necessary to point out the obvious?

For a laugh, which worked for most people.

jas3

[jas3]

What a tiresome, fallacious argument you are making, namely that because the pope doesn’t have children, he is not competent to speak on this issue. Your argument is analogous to saying that only married people can comment on adultery or only women can have opinions on abortion. Your whole argument is flawed and rather ridiculous.

I didn't make any argument. Therefore it is not tiresome, fallacious, or analagous to anything. Of course people are free to comment on whatever they like.

jas3

[Patriotic1]

I’m shocked at all of the anti-Catholic comments on this thread. Of course the Pope was talking to Catholics - we’re supposed to listen to him. Our Prot brothers and sisters have so such duty. He aims this at Christians, so this makes it even more scary to see the nastiness.

[Patriotic1]

have so such duty. = have NO such duty

[Patriotic1]

Pope to Europe: "Go ye forth and fornicate"

Made me laugh!

[steadfastconservative]

No, your obnoxious, anti-Catholic comment implied the fallacious argument that the pope has no right to chide Europeans for not having enough children because he doesn’t have children. It’s not easy to be a successful sophist, as you are demonstrating.

[jas3]

No, your obnoxious, anti-Catholic comment implied the fallacious argument that the pope has no right to chide Europeans for not having enough children because he doesn’t have children. It’s not easy to be a successful sophist, as you are demonstrating.

My comment was neither anti-Catholic nor pro-Catholic (nor even a comment - it was a question). My question contained no implications whatsoever. If you feel otherwise than perhaps you should up your dosage of Xanax.

jas3

[Salvation]

You have to remember that this got posted on the news forum and not the religion forum. This is how it used to be in the old days, and obviously is still today.

It’s one of the reasons I started posting the Daily Readings.

And it’s one of the reasons that the words “Catholic Caucus” even came into use.

[steadfastconservative]

It must be nice to be so flippant about everything. Perhaps you don’t think it’s a big deal that Europe is suffering from a birth dearth but the pope is right to point out that Europeans’ unwillingness to have children is demographic suicide.

[BuffaloJack]

The Pope wants us to build our defenses against Islam. The muzzies intent to conquer Eurabia by just ourbreeding the rest of the European population.

[Running On Empty]

It has already happened.

It all began in the late 60’s, and by the 80’s the birth rates in Europe had declined to the extent that it became necessary to import a labor force from outside Europe.

As a consequence, while the birth rates dropped so low in the European population, the imported working class was reproducing on avergae of 6-8 children per family.

We are now in the 21st century -—2 generations removed from the beginning of this demographic shift.

And we have Eurabia.

[ExGeeEye]

You’re absolutely right. None of the Pope’s kids need to go to college in order to have full, happy, productive lives.

Birth, however, is a prerequisite.

[ExGeeEye]

Depends on who you ask.

[Pietro]

how much sense does jas3 have?

0

[jas3]

Ahhhh...the ad hominem. The last refuge of the desperate bricklayer.

jas3

[Pietro]

I calls ‘em as I’s sees ‘em.