Posted on 09/07/2007 1:07:39 PM PDT by NapkinUser
Edited on 09/07/2007 2:33:06 PM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
Fox News moderators in the debate accused Paul of taking "Marching orders from Al Qaeda." Arguably the worst moderating I have seen, as Paul ends up having to debate the moderators?!?
During this debate season, Fox News decided to add "cell phone voting" to the post-debate analysis. After the first debate, Ron Paul won the cell phone vote, much to the displeasure of the Fox News pundits (youtube video from that debate here.)
The second Fox News debate was no different. Pundits Hannity and Colmes assure the audience that Ron Paul is winning the poll simply because people are redialing. What is the point of having a poll if people are able to abuse it? Ron Paul supporters, a bit tired of being beaten down by the media, put together this video to debunk the Hannity and Colmes "redialing theory."
I am curious to know if Fox News viewers would like to see each candidate treated fairly, or if they prefer that the newscasters go as far as lying to make some candidates look worse than others.
Um....’cuase hes a freak?
I agree, but he also reminds me of Ross Perot.
He doesn't. BTW why does Rudy loathe the Constitution of the United States and The bill of Rights?
In the 2004 primary, I wrote in "Tom Tancredo" on the ballot, prefering my protesting to be known, but not screw up the greater scheme of things.
He wants us out of the middle east.
Al Qaeda wants us out of the middle east.
Coincidence? I think not.
It wasn't a question. BTW are you still gay or do you still beat your wife? Were those legitimate questions I just asked you? I don't think so but I had to ask to drive home my point. Neither was Chris Wallace's his remark was highly unprofessional for that venue. He didn't ask an actual question he made an accusation disgiusing it in the form of a question. Please learn the difference.
But what else do you expect a liberal reporter to do? NEOBOT Hannity wasn't any better either after the debate. He kisses up to the GOP's Radical Gun Grabber left {Rudy} and yet attacks Ron Paul? Fair and Balanced My Eye!!!! Hannity and Wallace were highly unprofessional IMO. Had they did that to Rudy or any other on the stage they would have been fired. But that wasn't a debate anyway. It was a FAUX NEWS let's push the GOP's most Liberal's circus staring Rudy, Mitt, and John show.
There were other candidates on that stage besides Wudy, Johnny {Wudy's big Buddy now}, and Mitt that others including myself wanted to hear. FAUX NEWS failed to be unbiased and highly showed favoritism to those three.
Reasons I no longer watch Fox News. Bill O'Rielly, Wallace, Hannity, Rivera, Beltway Boys, Gretta, and Shepherd. The old Fox News just ain't what it used to be.
You people said the same thing about Iowa and Ru only managed to come in fifth.
Maybe you weren’t able to warm up such a thought when Ron Paul said we need to leave the middle east because Bin Laden doesn’t want us there, but everyone else with two brain cells to rub together was. FNC moderators don’t lob softballs at anyone the way MSNBC and CNN does for Democrats. Ron Paul is lucky he was given a chance to defend against the accusation everyone surely would level against him afterwards. This way at least he had an opportunity to respond.
My question for you is: do you support Ron Paul’s position of blame America and retreat? Do you think America brought 9/11 upon itself, is guilty of war crimes, and should retreat from the Arabian peninsula?
Where did they use the word “hate”. I’m really getting tired of DU using that and I’m hearing it more and more on FR!! So get a grip!!!
Being a New Yorker, Hannity probably thinks that only Rudy can defeat HRC.
“Why does AOL hate America?”
Huh? The Chief Executive Officer of AOL’s parent company, Time Warner Inc., Richard Parsons is a Republican who may run as the Republican candidate for Mayor of New York City in 2009.
I support the leveling of Iraq {conventional attack} and bringing our troops home ASAP while Iraq still smolders do you? I in no way shape or form support Nation Building for Islamic nations. Do you? I do not blame the U.S. and neither does Ron Paul.
There is however a reality though of for every action there is a reaction. Our M.E. policies since the early 1970's and even earlier has set us up for one huge M.E. mess. You can not arm Islamic nations and not expect bad things to happen. I wish our president understood that but he still takes his foreign policy advice from Dopey, Sleepy, and Stupid.
Do you think America brought 9/11 upon itself, is guilty of war crimes, and should retreat from the Arabian peninsula?
The United States via a lax military and national defense posture along with sheer stupidity and gross incompetence in our immigration policies contributed to conditions which made 9/11 possible. No Saudi Arabia brought 9/11 upon us or was a majority party in it. You wanna go after them? I do find it very insane policy to let nations in the Arabian peninsula do such things as our shipyard work. Of course I bet you support that too because Junior says it's good.
I supported leveling Yemen after the COLE attack so why didn't we? Now let's define the actual nations of the Arabian Peninsula first Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, and Yemen. Our visit to Yemen got us what and we did what about it? Saudi Arabia is not our friend it is the Bush's friends or anyone else who'll do their work including the 9/11 attackers.
Let me make one thing clear I do not believe in the term war crimes. War is a battle of unrestrained absolutes. If our leaders can't undersatand it then don't go there. I don't believe in the Geneva Convention either. Rip the silly nonsense up. No nation we have fought against has abide in it but us.
I do not believe we OWE Iraq so much as a 1 watt lightbulbg. I do not buy into their so called victim status. I believe THEY meaning the Islamic broke it and THEY can fix it.
Now. The United States Congress and our POTUS willfully ignored the Constitution of the United States, wrote paragraphs of UN Resolution supporting crap, approved it, and sent good soldiers to fight for it. Either declare it with an all out offensive or stay home. The M.E. doesn't respect us. They laugh at the stupidity of our leaders and play them like a puppet on a string. They don't care if our foreign policy enrages millions to fight against us it makes the radical clerics jobs ten times easier. BTW why aren't the clerics dying like flies from our bullets? It's because we are in a PC ran war. You do not win wars on fighting by Political Correctness.
I'm for the taking out of any foreign head of state or leader who supports threats against the United States by the conditions specified in the Constitution. So is Ron Paul but some would rather hear their favorite Party SpinBOT on the idiot tube tell them what Ron Paul says rather than using some logic and common sense to see Ron Pauls points.
Iraq as we are fighting it now is not winnable. We may win this battle but we are creating the devils Playground for the next Radical Clerics Puppet. That is what Reagan realized as does Ron Paul. You do not deal or make deals with these irational people. Stop trying to form the M.E. in the image of the U.S. it will never happen.
One last thing. I think Bush, Rummy, Gates, and congress owe some soldiers and Marines who have been harassed by whackjob JAGS an apology over their Court Martial. Bush policy has tied their hands and made their task 1000 times harder than it ever should have been. That part is what disgust me most of all. HOW ABOUT YOU?
Likely so. But the United States is not NYC and hopefully will never take the abuse NYC did from Rudy either. The poor lot they are they don't even realize what a Socialist he actually is. Here Take my gun Rudy Oh thank you Rudy I feel so much safer now/sarcasm. Rudy made Bloombergs acts much easier to pull off. They will let government do anything to them at this point. May this nation never stoop to that low.
You are way out of step with your man Paul.
He wants to leave the entire middle east and leave them alone, withdrawing into ourselves like the good isolationist he is with the hope they won’t hurt us, just like the most pathetic appeasers and defeatists in the Democrat party.
Leveling any country is the furthest thing from peacenik Ron Paul’s foreign policy.
Name me one of our M.E. policies that has actually worked Post WW2 without end up resulting in a bloody disaster and backfiring in our face. No he wants us to stop trying to run their nations for them. Stop arming them also. Yes I support that. THAT is what has made problems for us. We have backed leaders over there or gave them blinks. Leader the M.E. people despised. We can not afford to be the world Nanny for the U.N. nor should congress allow it to start with.
Maybe if the US State Department shut down ten years some improvements may be made. Let the Pentagon control foreign intelligance. It also does not mean we can not take out by more rational means the leaders who wish us troubles and are a threat to our national security. Again Ron Paul would do it or call for it as it is the duty of congress. Get them early on and QUIETLY.
I’m sorry, but we just cannot afford to withdraw from the world, the middle east particularly.
As much as you may think out mideast policies have failed, the consequences of withdrawing would be far worse.
Ron Paul's foreign policy. His actual words from www.ronpaul2008.com
War and Foreign Policy
The war in Iraq was sold to us with false information. The area is more dangerous now than when we entered it. We destroyed a regime hated by our direct enemies, the jihadists, and created thousands of new recruits for them. This war has cost more than 3,000 American lives, thousands of seriously wounded, and hundreds of billions of dollars. We must have new leadership in the White House to ensure this never happens again.
Both Jefferson and Washington warned us about entangling ourselves in the affairs of other nations. Today, we have troops in 130 countries. We are spread so thin that we have too few troops defending America. And now, there are new calls for a draft of our young men and women.
We can continue to fund and fight no-win police actions around the globe, or we can refocus on securing America and bring the troops home. No war should ever be fought without a declaration of war voted upon by the Congress, as required by the Constitution.
Under no circumstances should the U.S. again go to war as the result of a resolution that comes from an unelected, foreign body, such as the United Nations.
Too often we give foreign aid and intervene on behalf of governments that are despised. Then, we become despised. Too often we have supported those who turn on us, like the Kosovars who aid Islamic terrorists, or the Afghan jihads themselves, and their friend Osama bin Laden. We armed and trained them, and now we’re paying the price.
At the same time, we must not isolate ourselves. The generosity of the American people has been felt around the globe. Many have thanked God for it, in many languages. Let us have a strong America, conducting open trade, travel, communication, and diplomacy with other nations.
Border Security and Immigration Reform
The talk must stop. We must secure our borders now. A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked. This is my six point plan:
* Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals.
* Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.
* No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That’s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws. * No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules. But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.
* End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong.
* Pass true immigration reform. The current system is incoherent and unfair. But current reform proposals would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country, according to the Heritage Foundation. This is insanity. Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting periods.
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