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Haditha Video Doctored by Investigators
News Max.com ^ | 9/5/07 | Phil Brennan

Posted on 09/06/2007 10:37:05 PM PDT by Bulldawg Fan

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To: Darkwolf377

I think, if anything, political correctness is a possibility, in that the press can level a charge and then orders go down from on high to bend over backwards to “prove” that the past is the past and we’re all really sensitive today. So any charge of “massacre” is also combined with “government coverup” and then the various civilian and military go hell bent to prove they’re not covering up anything.

The Left and the driveby media, did, after, bring the charge of “massacre” out first. Congressman Murtha went before the Nation claiming that it was just so, but the reason was the dastardly war forced upon an unwitting America in the first place by Bush and Co. So there was a very defensive reaction trying to prove fairness.

In today’s 24/7 news spin things can really, really fly out of control to quickly. Bottom line, the whole thing is way too political. And that did come from the Left.

And, of course, this is just my speculation, after all.


41 posted on 09/07/2007 5:01:40 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Quix

It certainly is clear these government officials, including senior Navy and Marine Officers complicit in this sham will never meet the likes of Patrick Henry, Abraham Lincoln or other American heroes enjoying heaven. They could well end up in the cells next to those who were expecting heaven and virgins.........but were terribly disappointed when they awoke in hell.


42 posted on 09/07/2007 5:26:06 AM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: Bulldawg Fan
Why does the Federal Government want to Nifong the Marines? Second question, when is President Bush going to crack down on his out of control bureaucracy. They've been sabotaging him from at least March 2001. New Tone is a crock and your supporters are the targets of outrageous Federal Government abuse, Mr Bush. You've never learned that loyalty is a two-way street. Yes, you demand loyalty, but you have to give it to your supporters, who put you in office.

Mr Bush, you've destroyed your family business of politics. You'll be the last Bush elected to anything.

43 posted on 09/07/2007 5:33:52 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Just laugh at them!)
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To: Darkwolf377
Why would the government do this? You are seeking intentions. Intentions are in the minds of the perps. We human beings can only use our own minds to consider the intentions of others. People have proposed various intentions for why the government would do this. YOU then demand facts.

The FACTS are in the minds of the perps, which cannot be gotten to, only speculated about. Stop trying to be so superior, you come off like a liberal.

44 posted on 09/07/2007 5:48:21 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Just laugh at them!)
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To: Darkwolf377
Why would the government do this?

They were JAG guys - lawyers. And we know how crooked they are....

45 posted on 09/07/2007 6:56:50 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: Darkwolf377

See #45


46 posted on 09/07/2007 6:58:35 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: csense; Darkwolf377
I’m not sure if the address on your post represents a ping list for this issue, but if it does, please put me on it.

Use the Keyword Haditha or Hamdania to follow all of the posts for these two cases.

Darkwolf377 -- I don't think anyone can specifically state "THIS is why the Government would do this" as there are too many intersecting mazes involved. I do know that the socialists do and are biding their time, using any point of dissent and contention they discern, to further their aim to subjugate the Constitution to the UN and the power-brokers that feed from it. This is just one more root of the tree of freedom that they are chopping at to topple it.

47 posted on 09/07/2007 7:37:24 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Darkwolf377
Why would the government do this?

Why did Mike Nifong?

48 posted on 09/07/2007 7:38:34 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

Much agree.

The advance of lawlessness as Scripture predicted is sooooo horrid to see in our land.


49 posted on 09/07/2007 8:48:41 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Darkwolf377

As far as the Border Patrol is concerned, it has ban a long progression. The Ramos and Compean case is just one of the more egregious examples of the numerous times agents have been persecuted for simply doing their job. The easy answer to why this is happening is political correctness.


50 posted on 09/07/2007 8:54:03 AM PDT by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
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To: Ajnin

ban=been


51 posted on 09/07/2007 8:54:38 AM PDT by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
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To: Darkwolf377; Captain Rhino
I've seen speculation that the Marine brass are seeking a conviction to cover for Murtha's treasonous comments, since he controls their funding.

Don't know how one would go about proving it true without fly-on-the-wall intelligence, but I'd like to see something that proves it false at least.

52 posted on 09/07/2007 11:56:08 AM PDT by thulldud (Millete adi politikacilar gibi yalanci vaadlerde bulunmaktan nefret ederiz. -- (Ataturk))
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To: Darkwolf377

Embrace the insanity.

The truth is a lie, the lie a truth. Hot is cold and cold is hot. Up is down and down is up. Embrace their version of reality or suffer the consequences. Their mantra is: ‘FR knows all, sees all.’ and ‘None shall speak heresy against the Holy See of FR.’

They speak of systemic corruption in government, but they somehow embrace the idea that the politician(s) they approve cannot be corrupted. They embrace the ideals of freedom, while declaring ideological holy wars against any who disagree with the slightest of their doctrines and teachings. They think that sacrificing for freedom is having to give up their gourmet coffee for a month in order to send a check to a campaign or a charity. They think that facts are only the things which support their assumptions and biases. Facts which do not support their presumptions cannot be mentioned, let alone investigated. They decry government education while spouting the tenents of that same government education with every post they make. They decry government interference in their lives, but at the least sign of personal difficulty, they want the government to ‘do something’ to make things easy. They decry high taxes on their lives and incomes, but they continually want the government to ‘do something’ in their states, cities, towns, homes and personal lives. They decry the government turning freedom into criminality, but rejoice when someone is punished bythe government for excercising a Constitutionally guaranteed freedom. They declare themselves free, but ask the government’s permission for almost everything they do. They declare themselves equal, yet they despise the poor. Unknowingly, in their ignorance and immaturity, the more power they give to the government, the more corrupt the government becomes...and the less control they have over their own thoughts and lives.

In the meantime, the very governmental corruption and decadence which they claim to stand against is that which holds our Marines in contempt. It is the same corruption and decadence which holds those same Marines liable for maintaining what few freedoms they have left.

In the end, they (FR) want the government to do something. So doing, they hand over their freedom to those they claim to hate and to stand against. They willingly acquire and wear the chains and slave collars of the very same people who’ve falsely charged our Marines with crimes.

The same corruption they decry in Murtha is the same corruption which is responsible for falsely accusing our Marines. The same names, the same companies, the same monies... The Generals, themselves, are corrupt; often, down to the ranks of Major and Captain and SNCO.

The problem with FR is...that they refuse to simply follow the money. ...but if you actually follow the money...you’ll have to give up your assumptions and biases for...the truth.

When any of this is pointed out to them, no matter the references and resources you provide, or the reasonableness and rationality of your position, they will resort to name-calling...and even threats to ‘tell on you.’

...at best, they’ll just change the subject.

In ten years? Twenty at most? Whether left or right, their ideologies, biases, preconceptions and assumptions won’t matter a bit. We’ll have either destroyed ourselves or began the move to the next stage of our development as a species.

We stand at the crux in mankind’s history. We must face the facts and confront reality as mature men and women. We must acquit ourselves as soveriegn men and women of courage and of valor. If we do not, all of the gains of the last six thousand years of civiliation will be lost.

This generation of men bears the ultimate responsibility for the future of mankind.

Resolving the issue of why these Marines are being persecuted is one of many issues which will decide whether the future of mankind is that of a dystopian nightmare...or that of freedom and sovereignity for all mankind. Relying upon ideology, presumption and bias will not ensure that future of freedom. Indeed, it will doom us all to dystopian tyranny.


53 posted on 09/07/2007 2:19:43 PM PDT by rwsteel (One man can change the world. Wanna see how? Here! Hold muh beer and watch this...)
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To: brityank

Thanks for the info on the keywords. I’ll bookmark them.


54 posted on 09/07/2007 2:32:56 PM PDT by csense
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To: freema
"It's so blatantly obvious as to make NCIS a horrid embarassment."
How right you are.
55 posted on 09/07/2007 4:24:08 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Hunter in 2008)
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To: Darkwolf377
I humbly disagree. The U. S. Government is responsible for the prosecutions of all concerned.

The soldiers are trying to defend the country under orders from the President. The Border Patrol Agents are doing the same thing on the home front.

I am very disappointed in the prosecution of these government employees who I believe are trying to do their jobs under very difficult conditions.

They deserve more from the government and the people they are trying to protect and serve.

56 posted on 09/07/2007 4:38:44 PM PDT by wmc-50 ("You can't get rid of poverty by giving people money." P. J. O'Rourk)
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To: rwsteel
No more beer for you rwsteel....

What the heck did that post mean, rhetorically speaking.

57 posted on 09/07/2007 5:01:22 PM PDT by wmc-50 ("You can't get rid of poverty by giving people money." P. J. O'Rourk)
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To: wmc-50; rwsteel

It was quite obvious to me.

bones is saying your arse is as much in jeopardy as the lives of the Marines, and YOU don’t have a flak jacket.


58 posted on 09/07/2007 5:43:12 PM PDT by freema
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To: wmc-50; rwsteel

Oh, and by the way, if somebody’s fixin drinks I’ll have a Bloody Mary.


59 posted on 09/07/2007 5:44:05 PM PDT by freema
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To: wmc-50; rwsteel

Make that a Bloody Jihadi.


60 posted on 09/07/2007 5:44:33 PM PDT by freema
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