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Alcoholic energy drink trend raises concerns
Star Telegram ^ | September 5, 2007 | MELISSA VARGAS

Posted on 09/06/2007 7:41:48 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084

At bars across the country, people are regularly demanding a vodka or Jagermeister mixed with Red Bull.

Now some have the option of switching to alcohol already infused with energy.

Some do it for the taste, others for the jolt of energy. But experts say the trendy cocktails could be harmful, giving drinkers a false sense of alertness that could lead to disaster.

More than two dozen attorneys general across the nation recently announced that alcohol and energy drinks don't mix, and asked the federal government to take another look at what is in the drinks and how they are being marketed.

Lona Sandon, a registered dietitian and assistant professor at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas, agrees that the drinks are dangerous.

"All it does is make a wide-awake drunk," she said. "The person might also falsely believe they can drink more because they don't feel tired and woozy -- putting themselves and others at a greater risk."

Heightened demand

Bars everywhere are scrambling to keep Red Bull, Monster and other energy drinks on their shelves as mixers. To meet the demand, Anheuser-Busch and other alcohol manufacturers are now offering liquor and beer infused with caffeine and taurine -- ingredients of most energy drinks.

Anheuser-Busch markets Tilt, Miller Brewing Co. markets Sparks, and Charge Beverages markets Liquid Charge and Liquid Core. There's also the high-end spirit V2 vodka, which has energy-boosting ingredients.

"People want the energy," said V2 spokeswoman Diane Shader Smith.

The attorneys general say the packaging does not mention the potentially harmful consequences of mixing caffeine and other stimulants with alcohol, which is a depressant. They also contend that some of the less-expensive products are packaged to look like nonalcoholic energy drinks and are aimed at underage consumers.

In their letter to the Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau, the attorneys general singled out Miller Brewing Co., Anheuser-Busch and Charge Beverages as makers of the most popular products aimed at minors.

Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott has not joined the campaign.

"Alcoholic energy drinks mimic nonalcoholic energy beverages that are very popular with youth," a news release from Oregon Attorney General Hardy Myers states.

From 2003 to 2006, sales of Miller's energy brand Sparks more than doubled to 66,570,000 pints, according to a company news release.

A matter of taste

Mixing alcohol and energizing ingredients is not new -- rum and Coke and Kahlua have been favorites for generations.

V2 President James Goldstein said V2 is not marketed to minors but to sophisticated adults because it is packaged as a super-premium vodka.

"Spirits are meticulously reviewed by the government," he said. "The liquor industry is one of the most heavily regulated industries. I don't think the government would put something on the market that they consider unhealthy for people to consume."

The Pour House in Fort Worth has been stocking Red Bull as a mixer for years and it sells well, general manager David Bailey said. But his clientele has not yet developed a taste for Bud Extra, he said.

At 8.0 Bar in Fort Worth, energy cocktails have been enormously popular during the past 18 months, said general manager Curt Voirin. The bar does not carry the pre-mixed liquor but is keeping an eye on demand, Voirin said.

"I think the effects of the energy drink are psychosomatic," Voirin said. "It's trendy, which is important to kids ... but it's double-edged. You have a depressant on one end and a stimulant on the other. I'm not sure of the effect that could have on the body."

All it does is make a wide-awake drunk.

Energizing ingredients

Caffeine: A stimulant found in coffee, chocolate and tea. It excites the central nervous system and, in the right amounts, releases adrenaline and can enhance heart function.

Taurine: One of the most abundant amino acids in the body, it is thought to help regulate heartbeat, maintain cell membranes and affect the release of neurotransmitters in the brain.

Ginseng: A perennial herb believed to have many medicinal qualities, including as a stimulant.

Guarana: An herb from the Amazon rain forest with a long history of use as a stimulant in beverages. It has also been used to treat arthritis, diarrhea and headaches.

Source: Healthlibrary.com

Nonalcoholic energy drinks

Monster

Rockstar

Red Bull

No Name (formerly marketed as Cocaine)

Amp

Pink

Omega

Rush!

Alcoholic energy drinks

Sparks

Tilt

Bud Extra

V2 vodka

Liquid Charge

Liquid Core


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To: Eric Blair 2084
LOL Sorry about that, Eric. A lot of people think I'm disagreeing with them when I'm not.
It's my contrarian nature and not even the great Dr. Feel can help me with that.

FReegards, TigersEye

81 posted on 09/07/2007 10:42:28 AM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: TigersEye

Don’t worry about it.


82 posted on 09/07/2007 11:27:54 AM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: finnman69

I’m gonna be sorry when this Larry Craig stuff dies down. It may be too easy but its too much fun.


83 posted on 09/07/2007 11:29:09 AM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
V2 President James Goldstein said:
"Spirits are meticulously reviewed by the government," he said. "The liquor industry is one of the most heavily regulated industries. I don't think the government would put [sic] something on the market that they consider unhealthy for people to consume."

Ungh!

84 posted on 09/07/2007 11:32:05 AM PDT by monkfan
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To: monkfan
this guy has a product and wants to sell it. you don't want it, don't drink it. furthermore, if you want to drink it, don't drink 12 in 2 hours. sheesh!

but i guess some people need to be told what to do every second of the day.

85 posted on 09/07/2007 11:35:54 AM PDT by thefactor
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To: thefactor
Or, more to the point, they need to be told what not to do. Such as, don't use this product in a manner inconsistent with it's labeling. Or, as you wisely point out, don't drink 12 in 2 hours. Once upon a time, that would have passed as common sense.

Sadly, this guy appears to be trying to leverage the popular misconception that "if it's not illegal, it must be okay [read: endorsed]". I wonder how many people pickle their liver each year thinking this to be true.

86 posted on 09/07/2007 12:14:32 PM PDT by monkfan
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To: monkfan
everything in moderation, no? i agree his stock went down with the whole gov't soundbite, but there are products out there that are a whole lot worse that are more accessible to kids.

i have had V2 vodka before. it's not the liquid crack that is red-bull. but if i have 2 V2 drinks, i switch to something else. or (GASP!) i intermix them with non-alcoholic drinks. the horror! but i do love to tie one on from time to time.

87 posted on 09/07/2007 12:29:59 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: Eric Blair 2084
Coffee doesn't sober people up, it just helps keep them from passing out. Granted if you are driving drunk it's probably better to be semi-alert with impaired reflexes than completely asleep, but the only thing that sobers a person up is time.
88 posted on 09/07/2007 1:29:03 PM PDT by amchugh (large and largely disgruntled)
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To: amchugh
“Coffee doesn’t sober people up....the only thing that sobers a person up is time.”

If you sit there drinking nothing but coffee for a couple of hours you’ll burn off a couple of drinks worth of the alcohol you drank before and while your BAC will still be the same as if you had switched to plain water the caffeine will actually counteract some of the depressant effect of the alcohol and be slightly less impaired than if you had just switched to plain water. I bet this would bear out in a controlled experiment where we took two control groups, had them all drink the same amount of alcohol and then had one group switch to water and the other to coffee. Stimulants do help counteract some of the impairment caused by depressants.

89 posted on 09/07/2007 2:09:40 PM PDT by TKDietz
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To: TKDietz

I stipulated that caffeine will counteract some of the drowsiness caused by alchohol, but I wouldn’t want to count on the stimulant effect to save my butt if I were driving drunk (or after being up for 24 hours for that matter).


90 posted on 09/07/2007 6:10:56 PM PDT by amchugh (large and largely disgruntled)
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To: amchugh

That is a statement of fact, no doubt about it. I don’t think anyone disagrees.

Reminds me of the old Steven Wright standup comedy line about how he took amphetimines and Quailudes(sp)at the same time just to let them battle it out and see who would win.


91 posted on 09/07/2007 9:36:13 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: TKDietz

OK, I guess we have a dissenter. What the heck do I know?


92 posted on 09/07/2007 9:37:24 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: amchugh

The biggest stimulant is the adrenaline that gets flowing if you are ever pulled over after having a few beers.

It happened to me once in 1992. Once you see flashing lights behind you, the adrenaline kick is the equivalent of stabbing someone in the heart with a needle full of adrenaline.

That’s why I don’t understand how anybody ever fails a field sobriety test. You have to be in really bad shape.

At that point I was so petrified and alert I could have walked a straight line on my hands and recited the Chinese alphabet backwards and forwards.


93 posted on 09/07/2007 9:42:57 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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