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To: Delacon

Frankly, I’m all for more H1B’s for immigrants educated here. They are usually very Americanized, and all we are doing by forcing them to go home is exporting US trained expertise and knowledge — one of any nation’s most valuable resources. At the same time, we are facing a very real shortage of engineers and the like. It makes no sense.

Drug runners, welfare seekers, etc.: Kick ‘em out. US educated immigrants who want to work here, helping our economy: Let ‘em in. Heck, if it was up to me, if you came here for an education, you would HAVE to stay 5 or 10 years to help OUR economy and tech base!

This isn’t rocket science. Speaking of which, without enough engineers, we will LOSE our edge in rocket science and other tech., with MAJOR negative consequences for our economy and military.


5 posted on 09/06/2007 6:18:41 PM PDT by piytar
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To: piytar

I agree with what you say. I wish there was an article out there right now that covers the other areas of the Strive Act that are now going to be pushed by congress. The article skips over the amnesty parts of the bill. Read my post 13.


15 posted on 09/06/2007 6:36:46 PM PDT by Delacon
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To: piytar
Frankly, I’m all for more H1B’s for immigrants educated here. They are usually very Americanized, and all we are doing by forcing them to go home is exporting US trained expertise and knowledge — one of any nation’s most valuable resources. At the same time, we are facing a very real shortage of engineers and the like. It makes no sense.

While I understand this side of the coin, I also see that importintg more technical people that will work for less takes jobs away from and depresses wages for Americans.

On the one hand, we are graduating less and less engineers and scientists every year. ie, in the last decade the number of graduates from CA public universities increased by 11% while the number of graduates from those same schools with engineering, math, and physical science degrees decreased by 8%. I see firsthand how our high schools are not preparing our kids to take the harder classes. And companies need knowledgable workers else our economy is doomed.

On the other hand, a power plant here in Bakersfield hires 2 engineers from Mexico on H1B's and pays them about 2/3rds of what the going rate is for engineers here. This company is obviously trying to save money, while all the other power plants in the area have Americans in those positions and are paying the prevailing wage. They have no problem finding the engineers to hire - because they pay adequately.

Although companies have to submit evidence that they can't find a citizen to do the job and that they are paying their foreign workers a prevailing wage - it doesn't always happen. To the detriment of American workers.
76 posted on 09/06/2007 9:46:22 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: piytar

I say we reduce family immigration by 50%, all illegal immigration, and replace that with doctors, scientists, pilots, engineers, etc....

Automation will decrease labor needs, and put more weight on individuals to learn specialized skills or management. I’m not sure what this legislation dictates, exactly...and I’m not really in favor of just increasing the cap to give Bill Gates more labor.


88 posted on 09/07/2007 12:53:55 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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