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Immigration still breathing fire for GOP
The San Diego Union Tribune ^ | September 6, 2007 | Max Neiman

Posted on 09/06/2007 2:15:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bttt


21 posted on 09/06/2007 5:39:52 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

>>The question is can a Republican contender, so hemmed in, appeal to a national electorate without lethally undermining support from the base? Immigration is a corrosive wedge issue among Republicans – while Democrats’ disagreements are quibbles in comparison. This is a dangerous conundrum for Republican leaders as a national election looms.<<

“Hemmed in?” “Immigration is a corrosive wedge issue...” A somewhat one-sided article, claiming that if you are opposed to illegal immigration you can’t win in the general election. I think the author is wrong, but we can’t ignore the MSM’s power to deceive and hypnotize the masses. It will definitely take some work to get good people elected in 2008.


22 posted on 09/06/2007 5:40:43 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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To: Sagacious Sam

With strict workplace enforcement, they will be out of work.

When we cut off the Federal handouts, they’ll self deport.

Hopefully they’ll go home and make some much needed changes in their own governments.


23 posted on 09/06/2007 5:48:13 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Haddit

Do you know what? A couple of years ago I probably would have paid you no mind but your dead on. Something simple but disturning turned me on to this problem and got me thinking. I was on business and it was late. I was in MA and stopped for a couple of burgers at MacDonald’s. The drive in women could not understand my order because I asked for pickles and onions with Big Mac sauce. She no speaka english! I drove off furious and stopped an hour later in CT off 95. I thought, this will be fine I am sure they speak english here. Boy was I wrong. It was like walking into a cafe in Tijuanna. Spanish music, pinatas and no speaka english. I told them in Spanish to learn English and you’ll make more money. These people are so disrespectful to our culture they won’t even bother learning our friggin language! Then they get hand outs equally $30,000 a year and still scream for more entitlements. Why are they dumping in your bushes? Because even when arrested they are simply set free. Just disgusting but yes, We the People will do something about it and I have already begun to do my share and just warming up :)


24 posted on 09/06/2007 5:50:35 PM PDT by quant5
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To: Haddit
I moved from SoCal to N Florida last year. I don't want my kids growing up in the middle of a civil war over "Aztlan."


25 posted on 09/06/2007 5:52:52 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com--)
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To: Sagacious Sam

>>After securing the borders, what do you propose that we do with the 12 million illegal aliens presently living and working in this country?<<

Well, it will take more than just “securing the borders.” There are only 2,000 ICE agents vs. probably at least 20 million illegals, so an increase to about 10,000 ICE agents would be an improvement, plus effective employment enforcement.

After those are truly under control, we still should not offer an amnesty like the one proposed in the senate this year, with no background checks, allowing gang members to apply for citizenship. Also, illegals who are are taking more than they are contributing should go home.

What about illegals who have used legal residents’ SS numbers? Would you kick them out?


26 posted on 09/06/2007 5:54:56 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Mexico does not end at its borders. ... Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico.”


27 posted on 09/06/2007 5:57:01 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We will lose our country, but hey the consolation is that in the end, we get to keep a united G.O.P.

Why, that's just WONDERFUL! /sarc

Sheesh, the nerve of some of these GOP-bots.

Ho Slap.

28 posted on 09/06/2007 6:18:58 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
Agreed, UCFRW, agreed.

Why, Duncan Hunter, in a one-on-one TV debate with Hilary Clinton, would kick her (political) arse to kingdom-come. I could evision him walking all over here in circles, she would probably have a nervous breakdown in the process.

The other GOP candidates, mostly the establishmment and media's top choices, would be "too gentleman" to deal with America's enemies in that fashion. Too benevolent for my liking and for what's at stake for the Republic.

29 posted on 09/06/2007 6:21:48 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Reading the article in full.

It's called "waking up".

30 posted on 09/06/2007 6:24:10 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: Haddit

Wow. We have a WINNER!!! Ding ding ding ding ding!


31 posted on 09/06/2007 6:27:17 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: Sagacious Sam
After securing the borders, what do you propose that we do with the 12 million illegal aliens presently living and working in this country?

Keep them illegal, crack down on illegal employment, deport those arrested, cut off benefits, and count on attrition.

32 posted on 09/06/2007 7:16:54 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Califreak

Tagging is urban terrorism.


33 posted on 09/06/2007 7:42:34 PM PDT by Pelham (http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/)
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To: Sagacious Sam

Offer anyone who leaves voluntarily the chance to apply to return legally in the future.

After that, anyone caught will be fingerprinted and NEVER allowed to enter the country again.

Enforce the law, tax the remittances, jail those using false papers.

They’ll leave.


34 posted on 09/06/2007 7:42:49 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Just looking around the numbers in the article, the number of non-Hispanic Democrats who thought Immigration to be a big issue jumped from 4% to 23% in about a year.

That is incredible!

35 posted on 09/06/2007 7:43:53 PM PDT by muawiyah
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Why? Do Republican and Conservative voters imagine that the Democrats will be against mainstreaming the Undocumented Tourists or what?

No way we are that stupid.

36 posted on 09/06/2007 7:45:58 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Liz
Two of these pukes were picked up in Prince William County Virginia.

There's a tremendous number of Salvadorans and Hondurans in this area ~ all here in parole ~ which is a sort of legal status.

A single federal judge is responsible for this.

37 posted on 09/06/2007 7:49:36 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Haddit
Look, the rest of us didn't approve of the way Californians invited the illegals in ~ just what was it you people were thinking?

Dichondria lawns are beautiful, but they require a lot of care. The rest of us do without them.

38 posted on 09/06/2007 7:52:31 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Sagacious Sam
The undocumented tourists all have homes in other countries. They can go there on their own, or after agreeing to pay back the US Treasury for the cost of their plane tickets.

Did you have some other idea?

39 posted on 09/06/2007 7:53:44 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


40 posted on 09/06/2007 8:28:45 PM PDT by gubamyster
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