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Where system failed, street justice ended a career in petty crime
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 9/6/7 | Jaxon Van Derbeken

Posted on 09/06/2007 8:15:51 AM PDT by SmithL

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To: SmithL
It's an old story in San Francisco - a corrupt and ineffective law enforcement agency is supplanted by violent and outraged citizens. How old a story? Try 1856.
41 posted on 09/06/2007 11:49:51 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

In the far-reaching effects department, the 1856 Committee of Vigilance was credited with delaying statehood for Arizona by 30 years. Many criminals who fled the Committee headed for Arizona resulting in a population surge from the west in 1856 and 1857. Their reputation for lawlessness resulted in Congress refusing to even seriously consider Arizona as ready for statehood until after the turn of the century when most of them had died off.


42 posted on 09/06/2007 9:53:02 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: KingofZion; All
Worth savoring.

Earlier last month, state Attorney General Jerry Brown’s Lincoln Town Car was hit. As the vehicle sat outside the State Building in San Francisco’s Civic Center, a thief made off with its global position navigation system.

43 posted on 09/06/2007 9:58:30 PM PDT by dighton
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To: dighton

LOL! Yeah, but you have to understand the root causes here...


44 posted on 09/06/2007 10:01:27 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Beelzebubba; jbp1
straw-man rhetoric.

BINGO. It went right over many a Freeper’s head.

45 posted on 09/06/2007 10:06:45 PM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: SmithL
Broussard's mother, Ida Townsend, said her son grew up in the projects and suffered from a learning disability and had trouble reading. He dropped out of Balboa High School in the 11th grade, she said.

She said her contact with him was limited in his final years. She would do his laundry when he stopped by. He visited her the day before his death, she said, and she fixed him a meal.

"When you live in ... the projects, it's not good to raise no kids up," she said. "I did all I could do. ... You can tell them the best road. If you tell them the best road, that is all you can do."

She said her son's extended life of crime might have been prevented had he gotten some help earlier on.

"It is so sad. What can you say? Jail ain't going to rehabilitate you. They should have had years ago, like they have those boot camps in Arizona, like they are in the service," she said.

"If they did that, a lot of people would change. ... I did everything I could to raise my child."

When you raise your children on stolen money, you should expect them to turn out to be thieves. How, when they never see adults working, can they learn any better. I wish we'd stop paying stupid people to breed.

46 posted on 09/06/2007 10:43:49 PM PDT by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: Lurker

“Since the price of the product he was seeking would drop by several orders of magnitute after legalization this perp wouldn’t have needed to steal to pay for his habit.”

Yeah, I’m sure the high-dollar job he’d be able to hold would allow him to support his habit and other obligations easily.


47 posted on 09/06/2007 11:18:34 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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So can the drug legalization folks explain how this problem would have been solved by their ‘solution’?

Legal drugs would be much cheaper than illegal ones. Very few people steal cars or their contents to buy beer. Even hard core alcoholics, aka street bums, seem to be able to find enough money, often by begging, for some legal rotgut.

48 posted on 09/06/2007 11:41:09 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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Since the price of the product he was seeking would drop by several orders of magnitute after legalization...

...the government would have to tax the bejeebers out of it.

Hey, they can't even leave cigarettes alone.

Sorry, bro. It won't work.

Even if it was free, it would cause problems. Some of that crime isn't to get anything but a thrill, some of it is just a twisted idea caught in the fog and the moment.

Part of the crime problem stems from the really bad judgement people have being wasted, with no potential for a profit.

Think about it.

Junkies are just not 'normal' in their thinking, or they would not be where they are.

49 posted on 09/07/2007 12:21:25 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: jbp1

without going round about too much, de-criminalization would lower drug costs and let this guy kill himself alot faster and cheaper requiring less robbery and shorter careers. my .02...


50 posted on 09/07/2007 9:59:58 AM PDT by Gilbo_3
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Oh c'mon now, we all know that the problems in, ahem, urban America stem from white racism and a lack of sufficient affirmative action programs.

Midnight Basketball will fix all of this. /s

51 posted on 09/07/2007 10:02:38 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: SmithL

I was watching “City Cops: San Franicisco”

5 cops spent an 8 hour shift to sting 5 johns.

Meanwhile, a woman caught with over 120 hits of crack stashed in her frontal crack ended up on probation.

That city is a prime example of how the wild west rules would be an improvement.


52 posted on 09/07/2007 10:09:22 AM PDT by Idaho Whacko
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To: jbp1

So can the drug legalization folks explain how this problem would have been solved by their ‘solution’?


maybe it won’t, any more than ending prohibition has ended alcohol abuse. What it will do is eliminate the profit for organized crime, which takes over neighborhoods, corrupts police and local governments, and gives rise to transnational criminal organizations that destabilize governments and fund terrorism.


53 posted on 09/07/2007 10:18:50 AM PDT by kms61
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