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Megachurch Leader D. James Kennedy Dies
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| Wednesday, September 5, 2007
| MATT SEDENSKY
Posted on 09/06/2007 4:47:40 AM PDT by CitadelArmyJag
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To: CitadelArmyJag
..one of the few Christian pastor\leaders who was also a statesman
Another prophet's voice, warning the nation, has been silenced--his testimony shall be missed and cannot be replaced...
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posted on
09/08/2007 1:32:40 PM PDT
by
WalterSkinner
( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
To: governmentstillsucks
I'm still in search of a contemporary Francis Schaeffer. D. James Kennedy wasn't him, but he made his mark
How ironic. Schaeffer would have choked at the anti-Semitic tone of some of Kennedy's ministry. Knox Seminary is virulently outspoken against Israel, and supports "land for peace" and rewarding terrorists.
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posted on
09/08/2007 1:58:38 PM PDT
by
safisoft
(Give me Torah!)
To: WalterSkinner
So very true. The great ones, the effective servants of God in mighty ways in this nation, seem to all be passing from the scene. I don’t see their replacements coming forward - yet.
These men, Jerry Falwell, Dr. D. James Kennedy, and Dr. graham even though he has not died - but is retired and aged, affected (positively) for their salvation and for the sake of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and for their nation and the world, millions of individual lives.
Yet the news media (which is, by the way, under the control of the power of the prince of the air) either ignores their deaths (as in the case of Dr. Kennedy) or joins in a cacophany of hallelujahs that they are gone (in the case of Dr. FAlwell).
In the Kingdom of God, they have been true champions for Jesus Christ.....yet not one of them would claim for themselves such titles or glory but would lay every word of praise at the feet of their blessed Lord Jesus.
And, oh how we will miss them so much in the advancing days of trouble. May each Christian in this country and in the world find the grace and courage that these men displayed through the strength and wisdom and mercy and grace and power of the Holy Spirt for the times that are almost upon us.
To: safisoft
I have listened to Dr. Kennedy for at least 25 years and never heard one iota of anti-semitic words coming out of his mouth or in any of his sermons.
Dr. Schaeffer and Dr. Kennedy are no doubt now together in Heaven in the midst of quite scholarly discourses. Both rejoicing in the reality of the heaven they believed in.
To: CitadelArmyJag
Any time I caught this man on TV while flipping channels, I noticed that he never pandered or backed down. Wasn’t afraid of our government. I think he was a very fine man, so sad to hear of his passing.
And I really didn’t appreciate the article’s attempt to cheapen him by throwing in the word ‘megachurch’.
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posted on
09/08/2007 4:58:51 PM PDT
by
Lijahsbubbe
(I get enough exercise just pushing my luck)
To: safisoft
Why does it seem people like you and some others here can't wait to jump on an obit thread like this & smear a good, Godly man as soon as he passes?
You throw out hurtful words that have no foundation...
..you don't reference your opinons to anything factual...
..yet you hurry to vilify a man on the day of his passing.
I feel sorry for you...
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posted on
09/08/2007 5:07:23 PM PDT
by
Guenevere
(Duncan Hunter...President '08)
To: Freedom'sWorthIt
No, I was commenting on the juxtaposition of Schaeffer's name and Kennedy's. Opposite ends.
Knox Seminary took a lead role in promoting Presbyterian divestiture in Israel. They continue to actively promote Fatah under the guise of "fairness to the Palestinians."
Take it or leave it. It is a fact. Knox Seminary is has staked out the extreme in regard to Jews.
http://www.knoxseminary.org/Prospective/Faculty/WittenbergDoor/
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posted on
09/08/2007 5:13:51 PM PDT
by
safisoft
(Give me Torah!)
To: safisoft
..I must have missed it
But I didn't happen to see the late D. James Kennedy's signature on that document.
This is clearly a Replacement Theology document--which is completely out to lunch.
Properly, this discussion should be for another time.
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posted on
09/08/2007 5:42:44 PM PDT
by
WalterSkinner
( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
To: WalterSkinner
But I didn't happen to see the late D. James Kennedy's signature on that document.
Fowler White is the document's author. Luminaries such as R.C. Sproul and James Kennedy are signataries. The document is still in circulation in Presbyterian circles, and still invites signatures of pastors, theologians etc. Knox Seminary was Kennedy's seminary.
Kennedy was a serious supercessionist. The reason I brought it up was one poster's connecting Kennedy and Schaeffer; one that theologically cannot be made.
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posted on
09/08/2007 5:58:19 PM PDT
by
safisoft
(Give me Torah!)
To: safisoft
..the document on the link you posted didn’t have Kennedy’s name on it. I knew Sproul was in this camp.
Dr. Schaeffer spoke at Coral Ridge shortly before his death in the 1980s—a tape of which is frequently repeated on t.v.
If you have something solid, let’s see it. I do question the propriety of your posting—it is ill-timed if not out of line.
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posted on
09/08/2007 6:08:51 PM PDT
by
WalterSkinner
( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
To: safisoft; WalterSkinner; Freedom'sWorthIt; All
How ironic. Schaeffer would have choked at the anti-Semitic tone of some of Kennedy's ministry. Knox Seminary is virulently outspoken against Israel, and supports "land for peace" and rewarding terrorists.
It is true that Schaeffer probably would not have taken hatred against the Jewish people lightly.
Drs. Kennedy, Sproul, et al, have never struck me as being genuine anti-Semites. Far-left secular scholars such as Robert Funk and J.D. Crossan consider the gospels of Matthew and John to be "anti-Semitic." Fringe elements of the Christian Zionist movement have attacked Hank Hanegraff and others for their willingness to accept a two-state solution in Israel.
Forgive me if I'm a bit skeptical when the label "anti-Semitic" is thrown out. I do think that Schaeffer would choke at the pomposity, intellectual cowardice, and outright materialism found in many of our larger church bodies today.
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posted on
09/09/2007 5:56:58 PM PDT
by
governmentstillsucks
(Forget John Denver: Thank Allah, I'm a Jihad boy.)
To: safisoft
Kennedy was a serious supercessionist. The reason I brought it up was one poster's connecting Kennedy and Schaeffer; one that theologically cannot be made.
Connection? Not quite. My portion of the text of the original post is as follows:
What can I say? This is still a shock to me. Dr. Kennedy helped me to understand the deep-seated Christian--not Judeo-Christian, Mr. O'Reilly--foundation of this nation. He was a man who understood that God's people ought to be active in their government, while not advocating theocracy, understanding from whence our principles of civil liberty and freedom are derived.
I'm still in search of a contemporary Francis Schaeffer. D. James Kennedy wasn't him, but he made his mark.
Any comparison made between Schaeffer and Kennedy is one of intellectual leadership in the traditional, Reformed end of the Church. Kennedy was, as I will reiterate, no Francis Schaeffer.
However, I do respect Dr. Kennedy for the contributions that he made during his ministry, but not without questioning some of the teachings and doctrines he may have held and professed.
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posted on
09/09/2007 6:13:24 PM PDT
by
governmentstillsucks
(Forget John Denver: Thank Allah, I'm a Jihad boy.)
To: Guenevere
Now that's a homecoming!!!!! That is! God's blessings upon his family. No tears, Amen, as he is now in the best place there is.
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posted on
09/09/2007 6:16:18 PM PDT
by
nicmarlo
To: Petronski
D.James Kennedy dies, but Creflo Dollar lives on? How is that fair?The Father seems to take the good ones first. Perhaps He prefers to be face-to-face with them.
To: safisoft
Knox Seminary is has staked out the extreme in regard to Jews.I'm not sure that the position that Knox has taken is all that extreme. It may not be your position. It cannot be characterized as anti-Semitic (based upon the link you provided) without significant gaming of the language.
To: safisoft; WalterSkinner; governmentstillsucks
I read Dr. Schaeffer while at the same time listening to Dr. Kennedy. Both men were great apologists for the Lordship of Jesus Christ and the life changing redemption offered by God through Him. Meaning - they reached many whom others could not reach. God has all kinds of fishers whom He has trained to be fishers of all kinds of men, women, and children. Dr. Kennedy and Dr. Schaeffer no doubt will have been meeting in heaven many whom to whom God revealed Himself through their ministries. I praise God for both of them and the impact they each have had on so many lives, including mine.
To: Freedom'sWorthIt
I read Dr. Schaeffer while at the same time listening to Dr. Kennedy. Both men were great apologists for the Lordship of Jesus Christ and the life changing redemption offered by God through Him. Meaning - they reached many whom others could not reach. God has all kinds of fishers whom He has trained to be fishers of all kinds of men, women, and children. Dr. Kennedy and Dr. Schaeffer no doubt will have been meeting in heaven many whom to whom God revealed Himself through their ministries. I praise God for both of them and the impact they each have had on so many lives, including mine.
I'm a lifelong student of Dr. Francis Schaeffer. His insight and ability to present traditional Christian beliefs to a postmodern, post-Christian world are just as relevant today as they were thirty or forty years ago. Schaeffer brought the whole of history, art, philosophy, and theology together into a tradtional Christian worldview, and made us think about what we believe and why we believe it, without deprecating so-called secular forms of expression (contra the fundamentalists of the time).
Dr. Kennedy sought to educate Christians--mainly American--as to the genuine Bible-based roots of their nation, why it ought to be preserved, and just what we face today. Really, he pointed towards the evangelical Christian influence in the greater Western world--an influence that sadly, is waning today.
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posted on
09/11/2007 6:14:23 PM PDT
by
governmentstillsucks
(Still a "Tancredoac," after all these smears.)
To: the808bass; Petronski
D.James Kennedy dies, but Creflo Dollar lives on? How is that fair?
The Father seems to take the good ones first. Perhaps He prefers to be face-to-face with them.
Why Benny Hinn and his ilk haven't yet been struck by lightning is a testament that God's patience is far greater than mine.
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posted on
09/11/2007 6:19:15 PM PDT
by
governmentstillsucks
(Still a "Tancredoac," after all these smears.)
To: Psalm_2
a few months ago I met one of his friend s from coral ridge
at a church meeting learned of his stroke this is what the
explanation of what the lord said at that moment he ran his course and obeyed god if james he was here he would say put away your gods and return to the cross jesus isn’t that far away he coming church are you ready behold I stand at door
and knock if anyone will hear my voice i will hear him forgive forgive and give him a clean heart and he who hears
this will live forever with me jesus promise to us
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posted on
09/12/2007 8:29:42 PM PDT
by
kendall
(kendall)
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