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Carmakers switching to electric motors
Associated Press ^ | Sept. 6, 2007 | TOM KRISHER

Posted on 09/06/2007 4:09:15 AM PDT by decimon

DETROIT - Beneath your car's hood, there are belts hooked to the engine, running the power steering, air conditioning and other items that drag on the engine and cut gas mileage. But as fuel efficiency becomes paramount with high gas prices and pending government regulations, automakers across the world are trying to get rid of as many belts as they can, switching them to electric motors.

The power steering pump is likely to be the first casualty. Toyota Motor Corp., General Motors Corp., Ford Motor Co. already have electric power steering on some models, with more in the works, and they report fuel efficiency gains of up to 8 percent.

Other manufacturers and parts suppliers also are using or developing the motors, which could spread to air conditioning and power brake assist devices run by belts that suck power from the engine.

"It's one of the top technologies on percent of fuel returned for the dollar that you put in," said Ali Jammoul, Ford's chief engineer for chassis in North America. "All that parasitic drag is gone when you remove the pump off the engine."

Ford, which launched electric power steering in January on gasoline versions of the Ford Escape and Mercury Mariner small sport utility vehicles, reports an 8 percent fuel economy increase. The electric motors already were in use on hybrid models.

But fuel economy isn't the only benefit. Electric power steering has been linked to sensors so a car parallel parks itself, such as the system used on some Lexus models. The Ford system compensates for the crown in a road, eliminating drift. And the motors can be tied to sensors that stop a car from leaving its lane unless the driver wants it to.

Because there is no power steering fluid to monitor, no belt to check and far fewer moving parts, maintenance costs are lower, manufacturers say.

Steering feel also can be changed electronically from a softer feel for highway driving to a tighter, more sporty setting for winding roads.

"I wouldn't be surprised if it was on three quarters of all our models in five years because the advantages are huge," said Paul Williamsen, national manager of Lexus College, a training school for dealers who sell Toyota's luxury brand.

Toyota already has electric power steering on multiple models from top-line Lexuses to the popular new Camry to its youth-oriented Scion small cars.

Eliminating the power steering pump and fluid also helps gas mileage by shedding weight, said Williamsen, who reports a 3-to-5 percent fuel efficiency gain depending on model.

"It has absolutely saved us a four-pound lump of iron that would have been sitting there in the engine bay," Williamsen said.

At Chrysler LLC, which is working to bring electric power steering to its new models, engineers are looking at linking them to multiple safety systems including compensation for crosswinds.

The motors also will help make manufacturing more efficient, bringing down costs, said Donna Hale, Chrysler's manager for steering systems.

"You don't have to worry about assembling multiple parts in a vehicle," she said.

Bruce Belzowski, assistant research scientist with the University of Michigan's Transportation Research Institute, sees a mad rush to electrify belt-drive components once Congress raises corporate average fuel economy standards.

But with that rush comes a downside. If manufacturers are forced to install the motors before adequate durability testing, they could end up causing quality problems, Belzowski said.

"The bad news is the manufacturers have to do it in a relatively short period of time, so there is the potential for glitches in the system," he said.

Ford, which has pledged to place the technology on 80 to 90 percent of its North American models within four years, has data showing a 50 percent improvement in steering warranty costs for the Escape and Mariner, Jammoul said.

For automakers, especially the Detroit Three, which are struggling to keep market share from eroding to Asian competitors, making the change to electric motors and electronic controls is critical.

"The paradigm shift to the more electronic-laden vehicle is significant and has the potential to really differentiate which companies are going to survive in the future based on how well they can make this major transition," Belzowski said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: auto; autoelectric; automakers; energy
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1 posted on 09/06/2007 4:09:17 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Electric motors can last FOREVER. If this was technically possible why didn’t they change over to them decades ago. How many damaged engines from a broken belt or a teenage girl not checking the fluid levels would we have saved? Think it’s awesome. Maybe we’ll be able to regularly get 15 or 20 years out of a car!


2 posted on 09/06/2007 4:13:47 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Uncledave

ping...


3 posted on 09/06/2007 4:17:03 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Sworn to oppose control freaks, foreign and domestic.)
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To: Greg F

Not if they pull support from the software...


4 posted on 09/06/2007 4:17:07 AM PDT by steve8714 ("Hey honey, since you're up would you get me a beer?")
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To: steve8714

Call the geek squad . . . : )


5 posted on 09/06/2007 4:19:23 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Greg F
This means more HP to the rear wheels!


6 posted on 09/06/2007 4:19:30 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Sworn to oppose control freaks, foreign and domestic.)
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To: decimon

No mention if switching to electric motors will sacrifice horse power.


7 posted on 09/06/2007 4:22:54 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Greg F
Electric motors can last FOREVER.

I used to repair office equipment with GE motors that, with heavy usage, seemed to last forever with no maintenance. I like electric motors.

8 posted on 09/06/2007 4:23:42 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

This will make cars even more expensive to fix, I will assure you.

We will have to get to a throw away car, because repair costs are already getting prohibitive.


9 posted on 09/06/2007 4:24:32 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus
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To: decimon
After reading the book The Bottomless Well where the author discusses this, I envisioned my full size truck with a single or twin cylinder gas engine being used as a generator not driving anything but generating the electricity to run the motors at each wheel (4WD), the power steering, power brakes, AC, and all electricity used in the truck. The gas engine would not even be used to move the vehicle down the road, milage could easily exceed 70 mpg. I was tempted to send a copy of the book with letter to all the CEOs of the automakers with a letter saying the first one of you that can complete this will have the market for the industry until your competitors can catch you.
10 posted on 09/06/2007 4:26:29 AM PDT by Dad was my hero
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To: Man50D
No mention if switching to electric motors will sacrifice horse power.

This is about electric motors to power accessories and not the drivetrain.

11 posted on 09/06/2007 4:27:03 AM PDT by decimon
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To: Greg F
Electric motors can last FOREVER. If this was technically possible why didn’t they change over to them decades ago.

Because the automobile industry has a substantial ownership interest in the parts industry, and the profit margin on replacement parts is hugh!

12 posted on 09/06/2007 4:28:48 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Greg F

For steering purposes these motors have to be driven by electronics. The electronics weren’t ready or cost effective.


13 posted on 09/06/2007 4:30:23 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: decimon
Sounds like pretty soon your going to have an alternator the size of a watermelon under the hood to run all this stuff. I wonder what the net gain will be though, it still takes horsepower to generate the power to run all those motors.

Oh, only when they are being used. Ok, answered my own question.

14 posted on 09/06/2007 4:30:25 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
This will make cars even more expensive to fix, I will assure you.

Maybe, but I don't know why that would be. I don't mess with my hydraulic power steering but would replace a motor with control module without worry.

15 posted on 09/06/2007 4:30:58 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon
Drive by wire....

Mike

16 posted on 09/06/2007 4:33:29 AM PDT by MichaelP (Lets go Fred...)
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To: decimon

Since there isn’t a whole lot of unused electricity floating around in cars today there will have to be some added to operate the additional equipment. Larger alternators? Larger batteries? What size electric motor will run the air conditioner? There must be some advantage if manufacturers are going that way but I don’t buy lower maintenance.


17 posted on 09/06/2007 4:35:46 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: decimon

“The paradigm shift”
That quote is getting so over used in all the media and communications.
What a useless phrase that has come into popular use.
It’s second only to that overused stupid radio talk show host goody, the “I digress”.
Who come up with this garbage?
Book of phraseology?
Idiot left wing college professors?
But I digress.........

“In 1962, Thomas Kuhn wrote The Structure of Scientific Revolution, and fathered, defined and popularized the concept of “paradigm shift” (p.10). Kuhn argues that scientific advancement is not evolutionary, but rather is a “series of peaceful interludes punctuated by intellectually violent revolutions”, and in those revolutions “one conceptual world view is replaced by another”.


18 posted on 09/06/2007 4:35:53 AM PDT by 9422WMR (Allah akbar fumar blacktar)
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To: decimon

Are you saying that it’s a gub’mint conspiracy to be able to zap vehicles, such as people caught buying cigarettes, or going to the polls, or on their way to protest, er, scratch that last one? Most hippie protesters can’t avoid to buy a vehicle.<


19 posted on 09/06/2007 4:39:33 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: decimon

Call me a Luddite, if you will, but I want my steering control to be directly linked to the wheels. Power assist is one thing, but having the car steer itself is another thing altogether.

It is my job as driver to keep my car in my lane. And as for parallel parking, if the driver can’t handle such a simple task, he has no business behind the wheel.


20 posted on 09/06/2007 4:41:15 AM PDT by gridlock (I don't support Hillary because I am afraid of strong women.)
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