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To: Texas Songwriter
Let the debate be open, free, honest, and without vice or vitriole.

You might as well be talking to a brick wall. If people like the Iowa State Univeristy administrators ( who denied a good professor -- Guillermo Gonzales tenure ), and now Baylor U are any indication, it simply shows that there are many who will not allow this free and open honest investigation you clamor for, for fear that their personal worldview will be affected.

I may be wrong, but I suspect that money is somehow behind all this. Maybe big funder has threatened to halt research funds or take research projects elsewhere if ID is allowed to coexist with evolutionary research. We just might see this someday and if it does, I won't be surprised.

Unfortuantely, the only thing I see that will counteract this is for a well connected alumni to object to the treatment that Prof. Marks is getting.

However, as long as alumni sympathetic to Dr. Marks remain silent and continue to donate without registering any protest, this treatment of professors like him will continue.
49 posted on 09/07/2007 7:37:31 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot

ID proponents could put a rather rapid end to their persecution simply by publishing a testable hypothesis that is consistent with currently available data, and which projects data yet to be found.

One can only characterize as crank science, a conjecture that asserts an unspecified entity did something at some unspecified time using unspecified methods for unknown reasons.

It is difficult to argue against the proposition that a entity having infinite capabilities might have been the cause of everything we see. Perhaps gravity really is a manifestation of angels pushing and pulling things around. Prove otherwise.

Science, of course, does not attempt to prove otherwise. It simply asks the question, “Can we find regularities in nature that obviate the need for hypothesising demiurges having arbitrary means, methods and motives?” Anyone not asking this question is not engaging in science.

I still haven’t received an answer to my question about whether you are authorized to publish Dembski’s writings under your Freerepublic screen name. If not, you have exposed FR to possible legal consequences.


50 posted on 09/07/2007 10:53:36 AM PDT by js1138
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