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Look, I applaud the RP supporter's enthusiasm and conviction. All candidates should be so lucky to have that kind of support.

But you know and I know it’s the unethical, dirty, kook “by any means necessary”, nasty, vicious, threatening tactics RP supporters use to skew polls, belittle non-supporters, call talk shows and on and on that turns people off to RP. That in its self goes unaddressed by you which makes me think you support that kind of nonsense which is very puzzling to me...and we haven’t even discussed the candidate for God’s sake. In fact, these tactics parallel the lies and distortions used by the DNC, Code Pink, MoveOn.org, ANSWER and NARAL. How in good conscience can you endorse such dishonest tactics? I just don’t get it.

Do you honestly think skewing polls will get your candidate elected? Weren't you embarrassed when the poll in The Des Moines Register had RP up by 58% before the Iowa Straw Poll and he only got 9%? Don't these supporters do more harm to RP's credibility than help?

But you know and I know it’s the unethical, dirty, kook “by any means necessary”, nasty, vicious, threatening tactics RP supporters use to skew polls, belittle non-supporters, call talk shows and on and on that turns people off to RP. That in its self goes unaddressed by you which makes me think you support that kind of nonsense which is very puzzling to me...and we haven’t even discussed the candidate for God’s sake. In fact, these tactics parallel the lies and distortions used by the DNC, Code Pink, MoveOn.org, ANSWER and NARAL. How in good conscience can you endorse such dishonest tactics? I just don’t get it.

I'm not sure you can even make the case that I am my brother's keeper, let alone that I am somehow responsible to screen and filter all the various supporters of RP. Funny, it never seems that other Republicans, all of whom have some supporters in the wingnut category, have any responsibility for them nor are their supporters ever asked to account for others they don't even know and have never met. Not my job to chase votes away from my candidate. Tell you what, why don't you go patrol through your candidates' supporters and weed out the undesirables and get back to me on how that works out for you.

In fact, these tactics parallel the lies and distortions used by the DNC, Code Pink, MoveOn.org, ANSWER and NARAL. How in good conscience can you endorse such dishonest tactics? I just don’t get it.

What do RP's supporters do that actually qualify for such calumny?

Do you honestly think skewing polls will get your candidate elected? Weren't you embarrassed when the poll in The Des Moines Register had RP up by 58% before the Iowa Straw Poll and he only got 9%? Don't these supporters do more harm to RP's credibility than help?

Oh, so you're indignant that some poll doesn't produce results you like? That the polls are revealed to be completely bogus?

You may not be aware of it, being a Bush-era FReeper, but among FReepers in the pre-Bush era, it is pretty uniform to regard all of these polls as completely bogus tools for the libmedia to manipulate public opinion, not measure it. Of course, if you are taken in by their little shams, then I suppose you can worry over media polls as much as you like. Fine with me. But during the Xlinton era, every Freeper knew: "Live by the polls, die by the polls". We also had extensive posting on the poll-driven style of the Xlinton regime, again, something that FReepers seem to have forgotten. Then we read whining bloggers and columnists on the Right who complain bitterly that the precious online self-selected libmedia web polls are being skewed by some dirty hippies. I'd point out that this technique of destroying the online polls was invented and perfected by FReepers. It's why they call us FReepers, as in "freeping a poll".

Well, I'll stop there. I'm sure you have some supporters of your candidate to chase away from him.

******Look, I applaud the RP supporter’s enthusiasm and conviction. All candidates should be so lucky to have that kind of support.*****

The fact that none of them do should give you a reason to think about why.

*****But you know and I know it’s the unethical, dirty, kook “by any means necessary”, nasty, vicious, threatening tactics RP supporters use to skew polls, belittle non-supporters, call talk shows and on and on that turns people off to RP. That in its self goes unaddressed by you which makes me think you support that kind of nonsense which is very puzzling to me...and we haven’t even discussed the candidate for God’s sake. In fact, these tactics parallel the lies and distortions used by the DNC, Code Pink, MoveOn.org, ANSWER and NARAL. How in good conscience can you endorse such dishonest tactics? I just don’t get it.******

If you look on the threads here it is not the RP supporters that are making nasty comments about supporters of other candidates. It is the other way around. E.g., we are not conservaties, we are DU, we are Demos sneaking in, etc.

*****Do you honestly think skewing polls will get your candidate elected? Weren’t you embarrassed when the poll in The Des Moines Register had RP up by 58% before the Iowa Straw Poll and he only got 9%? Don’t these supporters do more harm to RP’s credibility than help?*****

No, these kinds of polls measure how many active supporters a candidate has. Romney spent a bunch of bucks to win the Iowa Straw vote, why don’t you complain about that? But he didn’t have enough active supporters to help him in the Des Moines Register poll. How many people were encouraged to look at Ron Paul’s positions because he won the Register poll?

Ron Paul’s supporters are ardent and active. We may lose because the deck is stacked against us, but we are going to give it the old college try.