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Southwest fashion police set no-fly zone
SAN DIEGO UNION-TRIBUNE ^ | September 5, 2007 | Gerry Braun

Posted on 09/05/2007 10:37:55 AM PDT by brityank

Southwest fashion police set no-fly zone



CRISSY PASCUAL / Union-Tribune
A Southwest employee asked Kyla Ebbert, wearing this outfit, to change or leave the plane.

As the mercury climbed over 100 on Labor Day, I called Southwest Airlines with a not entirely hypothetical question:

Could a young woman board a flight to Tucson today wearing a bikini top?

Angelique, the agent who took my call, assured me that a young woman could.

“We don't have a problem with it if she's covered up in all the right spots,” she said. “We don't have a dress code.”

Tell that to Kyla Ebbert, who was escorted off a Southwest Airlines flight two months ago for wearing an outfit far less revealing than a bikini top.

Ebbert, a Mesa College student and Hooters waitress, was allowed to stay on the plane, but only after she put up a fight and, she says, was lectured on how to dress properly.

I don't know about you, but one of my big gripes with the airlines is that they just don't take the time to dispense fashion advice any more.

Southwest explained its treatment of Ebbert in a letter to her mother, saying it could remove any passenger “whose clothing is lewd, obscene or patently offensive” to ensure the comfort of children and “adults with heightened sensitivities.”

Ebbert, 23, says she was judged unfairly by the airline and humiliated by the experience. Who wouldn't be?

She had a doctor's appointment that afternoon in Tucson, where temperatures had topped 106 all week. She arrived at Lindbergh Field wearing a white denim miniskirt, high-heel sandals, and a turquoise summer sweater over a tank top over a bra.

After the plane filled, and the flight attendants began their safety spiel, Ebbert was asked to step off the plane by a customer service supervisor, identified by the airline only as “Keith.”

They walked out onto the jet bridge, where Keith told Ebbert her clothing was inappropriate and asked her to change. She explained she was flying to Tucson for only a few hours and had brought no luggage.

“I asked him what part of my outfit was offensive,” she said. “The shirt? The skirt? And he said, 'The whole thing.' ”

Keith asked her to go home, change and take a later flight. She refused, citing her appointment. The plane was ready to leave, so Keith relented. He had her pull up her tank top a bit, pull down her skirt a bit, and return to her seat.

Ebbert says several flight attendants overheard the conversation and, after an embarrassing walk down the aisle, she took her seat and spread a blanket over her lap. She kept her composure until the plane landed, when she called her mother and broke down.

She took a photo of herself with her cell phone so her mother could see her clothes. That's when mom became livid.

“My daughter is young, tall, blond and beautiful,” Michele Ebbert told me, “and she is both envied and complimented on her appearance. She dresses provocatively, as do 99 percent of 23-year-old girls who can. But they were out of line.”

Who knows where the lines are drawn these days, particularly when it comes to dress? If you watch television, or visit the mall, or take in a game at Petco Park, you'll see women dressed in ways that, 50 years ago, were pornographic. Today they are stylish.

A Supreme Court justice famously could not define “obscene,” and declaring a thing “lewd” imputes motive. Did Kyla Ebbert intend to excite sexual desire on that flight to Tucson? I doubt it, just as I doubt that flight attendants are proper judges of such matters.

But neither am I. So when I arranged to see Ebbert in the notorious outfit, I brought along my fashion advisers, writer Nina Garin and photojournalist Crissy Pascual, who for years collaborated on a feature in this newspaper called “Seen on the Street.”

The three of us met Ebbert and her mother for lunch at Nordstrom Cafe. Ebbert, who is 5-foot-5 and has green eyes, is pretty enough to be a model.

Yet even wearing the clothes that scandalized Southwest, she did not attract attention beyond some lingering glances.

My fashion advisers were baffled, saying they saw nothing you don't see on a college campus or in Pacific Beach.

“I was expecting to be shocked, and I was shocked the other way,” Pascual told me.

“It wasn't a big deal,” Garin said. “Her skirt was a bit short, which was only accented by her heels. If she had been wearing flip-flops it wouldn't have mattered.”

Garin wondered if a jealous woman may have complained about Ebbert's outfit. I asked her what she would have said had she been on the plane.

“ 'I hope she's not sitting next to my husband,' ” Garin replied. “She's pretty. She wears her clothes well. But I wouldn't complain about it.”

Pascual detected sexism in the way Ebbert was treated, wondering if a man would have been asked to change clothes. Do men dress inappropriately? “I see butt cracks, a lot of butt cracks,” she said.

In its letter, Southwest said “there were concerns about the revealing nature of her outfit.”

I called Hollye Chacón, the Southwest customer relations representative who wrote the letter, to see if we were talking about the same outfit.

“What exactly was being revealed?” I asked.

She said yesterday she'd call back, but never did. That's pretty revealing in itself.


Gerry Braun: (619) 542-4563;



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California
KEYWORDS: burkasforall; dresscode; flyingimam; southwest; southwestairlines
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To: brityank

But it’s ok to wear baggy pants about 6 sizes too big with your underwear showing???? That’s appropriate attire? Give me a break.


21 posted on 09/05/2007 10:45:06 AM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative nominee who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal one who will DIVIDE it!)
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To: ozaukeemom

Well, I wonder if some Muslim was having his sensibilities offended.


22 posted on 09/05/2007 10:45:33 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: brityank

That girl is beautiful and I see nothing wrong with her outfit.


23 posted on 09/05/2007 10:45:52 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time .)
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To: brityank; Froufrou

This is probably case of ‘respect my authori-tie’. Her clothing isn’t inappropriate for a public setting.


24 posted on 09/05/2007 10:45:59 AM PDT by JamesP81
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To: martin_fierro

Couldn’t believe it, Just what was going through that guy’s mind?


25 posted on 09/05/2007 10:46:21 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
If she was as good looking at ME there would be hell to pay !!!!

She'd probably be kept indoors 24/7.

26 posted on 09/05/2007 10:46:22 AM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: Jaysun

Agreed. Girls wear much less than that to school. (ie, no sweater to cover the tank straps)


27 posted on 09/05/2007 10:46:22 AM PDT by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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To: brityank
I wonder if “those with heightened sensibilities” were wearing a burka.
28 posted on 09/05/2007 10:46:39 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: brityank

My guess is that “Keith” is gay, like a lot of male flight attendants on Southwest.


29 posted on 09/05/2007 10:47:05 AM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

Naughty, naughty...


30 posted on 09/05/2007 10:47:18 AM PDT by freekitty (May the eagles long fly over our beautiful and free American sky.)
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To: brityank

I’m old enough to remember when the stewardesses (**cough** back then we called them stewardesses or stews, for short) used to show that much leg. And the airline used to be able to fire the stews who didn’t, um, measure up.


31 posted on 09/05/2007 10:47:24 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (Global warming? Hell, in Texas, we just call that "summer".)
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To: netmilsmom

What if she was ugly?


32 posted on 09/05/2007 10:47:29 AM PDT by donna (If America is not a Christian nation, it will be part of the Islamic nation. Take your pick.)
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To: snowrip

Get in line!


33 posted on 09/05/2007 10:47:31 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: ozaukeemom
Maybe someone wanted her place.

Good point. I wonder if they flew with the seat unoccupied, and if not, who took it?

34 posted on 09/05/2007 10:47:53 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

They ended up letting her stay on board, but I bet she had to sit somewhere else.


35 posted on 09/05/2007 10:48:51 AM PDT by ozaukeemom (Nuke the ACLU and their snivel rights)
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To: Smogger
My guess is that “Keith” is gay,

Concur. I'll further speculate that "keith" is also a drag queen, and jealous. The lady looks better in that miniskirt than "keith".

36 posted on 09/05/2007 10:48:58 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: brityank

Kieth is a homo.


37 posted on 09/05/2007 10:49:13 AM PDT by Cogadh na Sith
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To: BJClinton

Imagine Rosie O’Donnell

lol


38 posted on 09/05/2007 10:49:21 AM PDT by Leofl (I'm from Texas, we don't dial 9-11)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Even good companies hire an occasional flake. Given what people usually wear to fly these days, this girl should get a “Best Dressed” award. ;)

To reference a certain comedian, she's definitely better dressed than the guy you sometimes see with the Grateful Dead t-shirt and the eff you hat.
39 posted on 09/05/2007 10:49:43 AM PDT by JamesP81
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To: ozaukeemom

I missed that bit. Keith needs his happy heinie deposed.


40 posted on 09/05/2007 10:50:26 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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