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Thompson Soft on Illegals in Senate Votes (Wash. Times)
Washington Times ^

Posted on 09/05/2007 10:15:05 AM PDT by MittFan08

As Mr. Thompson prepares to announce tomorrow that he will officially seek the Republican nomination for president and voters begin to take a closer look at him, his maverick streak and his voting record will be front and center.

Some votes are likely to draw scrutiny, particularly a series of votes in the 1990s against cracking down on illegal aliens. Those include a 1995 vote against limiting services other than emergency care and public education to illegal aliens — he was one of just six senators to oppose that proposal — and a 1996 vote against creating an employer verification system to help businesses filter out illegal aliens who apply for jobs.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008; aliens; elections; fredthompson; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration
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At this point, I'm undecided between Romney and Thompson. I've been disappointed in some things that Mitt has said and done, and I'm very disappointed to read this report on Fred. I will want to hear a very good explanation as to why he was apparently one of only 6 out of 100 Senators to vote to deny public services above and beyond emergency care and education to illegal aliens.

We don't have a perfect candidate, and we'll have to choose the one who is the least imperfect. Maybe that's Fred, but if so, he's got some explaining to do to get my vote.

1 posted on 09/05/2007 10:15:07 AM PDT by MittFan08
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To: MittFan08

Obviously, I should have said Fred was one of only 6 Senators to vote AGAINST denying services to illegal aliens.


2 posted on 09/05/2007 10:15:58 AM PDT by MittFan08 (Anybody but McCain)
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To: MittFan08

Fred Lobbyist does what the special interests tells him to do.

He is loyal to the CFR first and foremost.


3 posted on 09/05/2007 10:18:57 AM PDT by eboyer
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To: MittFan08

Obviously you have never watched “Law & Order”.

One thing he is NOT is SOFT!


4 posted on 09/05/2007 10:20:10 AM PDT by The_Republican (Dumb it Down and then Tart it Up!)
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I will want to hear a very good explanation as to why he was apparently one of only 6 out of 100 Senators to vote to deny public services above and beyond emergency care and education to illegal aliens.

Federalism. I believe Fred thought it wasn't the fedgov's role to mandate to the states on this matter. A quaint notion for many in this day and age, but critical if we are ever gonna start shrinking the federal behemoth.

5 posted on 09/05/2007 10:21:59 AM PDT by dirtboy (Chertoff needs to move out of DC, not move to Justice.)
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I'm very disappointed to read this report on Fred.

Feigned disappointment, I'm sure.

6 posted on 09/05/2007 10:22:26 AM PDT by jdm
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I’m pretty much a fan of FRed.

But his membership in the CFR is troubling as are the votes mentioned here.

He has spoken about the illegal situation.

I’d feel a lot better about this if he’d come out with a no BS, no read between the lines statement on this including exactly what, if anything, he plans to do about the illegals situation and the work done so far towards the NAU.

7 posted on 09/05/2007 10:22:28 AM PDT by upchuck (Today there are 1,000 more illegal aliens in yer country than there were yesterday. 1,000! THINK!)
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Some of us have been aware of his immigration record all along but it’s been made clear that we’re to STFU unless we want to be called racists, nazis, etc.

Only a fool would believe he could get through an election without having to answer questions.


8 posted on 09/05/2007 10:23:11 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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Can you say CFR.............good, I knew you could.


9 posted on 09/05/2007 10:23:35 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: MittFan08

I do think we will end up with an imperfect candidate. That doesn’t mean we have to vote for anyone with an R by their name.


10 posted on 09/05/2007 10:24:31 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: upchuck

I’d feel a lot better about this if he’d come out with a no BS, no read between the lines statement on this including exactly what, if anything, he plans to do about the illegals situation and the work done so far towards the NAU.

That is exactly what ANY candidate is going to have to do to get my vote.
No more wishy washy, read between the lines crap for me.


11 posted on 09/05/2007 10:25:26 AM PDT by sheana
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To: MittFan08

Gnats..


12 posted on 09/05/2007 10:26:41 AM PDT by xcamel (FDT/2008 -- talk about it >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
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Ah yes, compared to what? When Mitt decided he was going to run for President he decided to order the Mass State Police to apprehend illegals ... which the next Dem governor rescinded. But for the years proceeding, Mitt did exactly ...

Fred is the real deal, the rest are just pretend.

13 posted on 09/05/2007 10:26:49 AM PDT by Tarpon
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I’m with you. I’m trying to decide between Romney and Thompson but it’s like being between a rock and a hard place. There is no perfect candidate but they all could be a hell of a lot better, especially the majors.

It’s a damn shame Hunter isn’t as widely known.


14 posted on 09/05/2007 10:29:30 AM PDT by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: sheana

I’ll be voting for a candidate who has long held a strong stance on the issues instead of a candidate who has had a road to NH conversion.

I don’t trust the triangulators any more.


15 posted on 09/05/2007 10:30:16 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: upchuck; cripplecreek

Well said guys.


16 posted on 09/05/2007 10:32:20 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: MittFan08
Some votes are likely to draw scrutiny, particularly a series of votes in the 1990s against cracking down on illegal aliens. Those include a 1995 vote against limiting services other than emergency care and public education to illegal aliens — he was one of just six senators to oppose that proposal — and a 1996 vote against creating an employer verification system to help businesses filter out illegal aliens who apply for jobs.

The problem with statements like these is they usually only tell a small part of the story. What else was in the bill? Was it full of unpalatable earmarks that made it worth voting against a measure you might otherwise support in order to block a bunch of things you don't?

As someone else pointed out, was the measure even constitutional?

18 posted on 09/05/2007 10:37:41 AM PDT by jdub
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“Federalism. I believe Fred thought it wasn’t the fedgov’s role to mandate to the states on this matter.”

Huh? If it was coming before the US Congress for a vote, it’s a safe bet that it was FEDERAL, not state, benefits that were being discussed.


19 posted on 09/05/2007 10:38:23 AM PDT by MittFan08 (Anybody but McCain)
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To: cripplecreek

I don’t really care if it is a road to NH conversion, I say welcome to our world. But it must be a plain spoken plan.....period. No more meanings of word changes, no more PC BS, no more hand wringing, and no more we can’t blah, blah blah blah.
The person who stands up there and unapologetically tells me how they are gonna fix it and what they are going to do about the millions here is the person who will get my vote. Otherwise I will write in Daffy Duck. He could probably do as good a job as most.


20 posted on 09/05/2007 10:39:01 AM PDT by sheana
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