Posted on 09/05/2007 7:42:05 AM PDT by Jeff Head
“I suspect he may also have the goods on some other people as well. In his malice he will only out the GOP sodomites.”
Let him do it. Time to purge all of our problems at once, rather than suffer future scandals.
I doubt it. Do we really think the Founding Fathers would overlook more serious misdemeanor crimes to exempt arrest for causing a ruckus? I would assume Breach of the Peace refers to acts like inciting an insurrection.
If getting into an argument with an airport police officer is the new standard, look for lots of Republicans to start getting arrested if Hillary wins and gets to appoint the AG.
This is not about causing a ruckus, and I somehow believe that if the Founding Father’s so much as caught a whif of what is brewing in this case, what it is really about, they would not stand for it for an instant. But that is just my opinion.
Read the guilty plea. It talks about the nature of the offense being phycisal in nature and not verbal, and about the signator knowing that an individual who thinks themselves not guilty should not, and would not be allowed to sign it. He signed it anyway.
Overall, Larry Craig has been a good Senator but he needs to realize that his time is up. It is truly sad that it has to end this way but it has to end.
I’m not in disagreement with the guilty plea, it’s Craig who’s trying to justify it and interpreting it to mean nothing really happened. There are cases that judges will toss the plea if circumstances change or new facts are discovered after the plea.
Heaven help us all.
Did you see the Tonight Show tonight?
Jay Leno suggested to Fred a bumper sticker: Fred, he’s got a narrow stance.
Had he not pled guilty, I would be willing to believe that, and would presume it until proved otherwise. But...he pled guilty.
Yep, they all know who they are. I for one will be happy to see the toilet flushed—literally and figuratively.
Apparantly the US Congress draws the same kind of sexual predators as are attracted to the clergy. Same MO. Predator in position of power and compulsion to live on the edge. Access to young males and females. It’s really beyond disgusting.
Did not see it. But I did watch Fred’s entire candidate announcement video and was impressed. I’d love to see him and Hunter hook up.
ALl of these vipers need to be routed out. God grant us the strength as a people to do so, for if we do not, then collectively, we shall deserve the consequences and the horrible and horrific harvest of what we sow by not doing so.
All of these vipers need to be routed out. God grant us the strength as a people to do so, for if we do not, then collectively, we shall deserve the consequences and the horrible and horrific harvest of what we sow by not doing so.
609.72 DISORDERLY CONDUCT. Subdivision 1. Crime. Whoever does any of the following in a public or private place, including on a school bus, knowing, or having reasonable grounds to know that it will, or will tend to, alarm, anger or disturb others or provoke an assault or breach of the peace, is guilty of disorderly conduct, which is a misdemeanor:He's going to have a tough time getting off constitutionally since this is exactly what he pled guilty to, and, under oath in the plea, indicated he made no claim of innocence.A person does not violate this section if the person's disorderly conduct was caused by an epileptic seizure.
- Engages in brawling or fighting; or
- Disturbs an assembly or meeting, not unlawful in its character; or
- Engages in offensive, obscene, abusive, boisterous, or noisy conduct or in offensive, obscene, or abusive language tending reasonably to arouse alarm, anger, or resentment in others.
But I think for me it's the fact that the esteemed Senator "Wide Stance" Craig didn't know that the Constitution makes him immune from arrest for this kind of stuff while he's coming from or going to the Senate while it's in session.
For a sitting 'conservative' Senator not to know that simple, basic fact is disturbing.
Now I'm not countenancing what this creep did, but he would have been well within his rights to pull out a copy of the US Constitution and tell that officer "Sorry son. You can't arrest me."
So not only is he a creep, he's a dumb creep.
L
Craig pled guilty to "Disorderly Conduct". In the Minnesota statute, disorderly conduct is defined, among other things, as being guilty of "breach of the peace". See my post number 95 in this thread for the fuill wording.
He pled guilty to that. Her signed the plea which is the same as an admission of guilt under oath. I do not believe he will even be able to hide behind the constitution on this one...nor should he IMHO.
I stopped supporting Craig over his stance on immigration. Now I just want to see him gone so our Governor can appoint a conservative in Craig's stead, who will not only vote conservative where Craig did, but will also stand against the illegal invasion. Either Simpson or Risch will do that IMHO.
BTW, as always, great to see you my friend.
oops...the full text of the statute is in post 96, not post 95. Sorry.
Great to see you as well my friend.
Take care,
L
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