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Abandon Stereotypes, Muslims in America Say
The New York Times ^ | September 4, 2007 | NEIL MacFARQUHAR

Posted on 09/03/2007 7:47:09 PM PDT by mdittmar

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he Koran tells Muslims to abstain from drinking alcohol and to lower their gaze in modesty when meeting a member of the opposite sex, but some college-age Muslim men and women at the convention stayed up late into the night drinking, talking and getting to know one another. “If you keep your gaze lowered all the time, you might just walk into a wall,” said Hazem Talha, a high school senior from Atlanta who said he was here for the religious lectures.

Does this guy realize that if the people he is consorting with got control of things, he would be stoned to death for morality crimes?

What's hilarious and sad is to see these people bleating about how all the false stereotypes of Muslims out there. Meanwhile these supposed false ideas about this religion's oppression and savagery are dead on and obvious to anyone that's taken five minutes to observe the behavior of those under it's influence.

21 posted on 09/03/2007 8:07:51 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: facedown

Thet stereotype looks like the reality.


22 posted on 09/03/2007 8:08:26 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: mdittmar

With the mythical moderate muslim so elusive and the stakes so high you don’t have the luxury of of trying to make impossible distinctions. Survival instinct demands we paint with a broad brush. Like if you get between a Lion and its cub the stakes are so high the lion won’t bother trying to determine if your intentions are good or hostile. The lion will just tear you to bits. Same concept.


23 posted on 09/03/2007 8:11:48 PM PDT by joebuck
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Okay, change your history, major sections of the Koran, and the basic teachings of your religion, and I’ll no longer think the motives of Muslims need close examination, much closer than other minorities in the US.


24 posted on 09/03/2007 8:12:40 PM PDT by Will88
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Abandon the Koran. That would work worldwide!
You know= the ‘holy’ book that says ‘submit to Islam or die’. The one you MUST obey if you’re Muslim.
THAT’S the core of your problem, Abdul- what your death-cult says you MUST believe.
Believing I must submit or die isn’t something I can get past.
Ideology or people.
Your choice.

OH- and the shirt- I’d change the ‘frisk’ to deport.


25 posted on 09/03/2007 8:13:13 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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“Muslim Americans feel an increasing level of tension and scrutiny in contemporary society,”

Oh, I certainly do hope so.

26 posted on 09/03/2007 8:15:09 PM PDT by Migraine (...diversity is great... until it happens to YOU...)
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To: GravityFree

Isn’t Islam obligated to warn us first?


27 posted on 09/03/2007 8:17:21 PM PDT by txhurl
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"It is time for the United States to stop treating every American Muslim as somehow suspect, leaders of the faith said at their largest annual convention"

If the shoe fits....

When muslims stop doing the jig every time Jihadists strike a western target; as long as they remain silent about terrorism, and when they stop preaching the hate in the koran, then we will stop being suspicious.

28 posted on 09/03/2007 8:18:34 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: mdittmar

If a recent news report stating that 80% of US mosques have been radicalized is true, then all muslims are suspect until they prove otherwise by their deeds—not their words—since posing and lying to further Islam is allowed. The ACLU collectivists can kiss our collective butts.


29 posted on 09/03/2007 8:18:56 PM PDT by Combat_Liberalism
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Muslim Americans feel an increasing level of tension and scrutiny in contemporary society

I can't imagine why that would happen.

30 posted on 09/03/2007 8:21:46 PM PDT by expatpat
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Muslim Americans feel an increasing level of tension and scrutiny

Maybe they'd prefer to feel an increasing level of my boot up their a$$es instead? I think it's important to remember that the government can't FORCE anyone to accept these subhuman vermin. Pass all the laws you want, you will STILL be ostracized, because you are disciples of a murderous, treacherous, soulless cult that that has left a trail of destruction for 1,000 years.

31 posted on 09/03/2007 8:24:43 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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well when the rest of the world gets the perception that over 50% of the world’s muslims really, explicitly, vocally and actively are themselves against the muslim nut-jobs, maybe we won’t have a stereotype.


32 posted on 09/03/2007 8:26:36 PM PDT by jbp1 (be nice now)
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Nothing but fun loving, sign carrying, offended (every single time), any words from anyone but them is spoken. Don't even talk about cartoons. Their acting as hiding, while walking in plain sight, people requiring 'sanctuary' till another part (of a plan) can be implemented, is one of their groups first denials. These type are who they are, and who they are is what they read and hear spoken to them. There is no light, of any day which is past, only an oncoming freight train, from people who have a desire to harm innocents.

This is always this community's second denial.

To recap, the community claim they hide no terrorists. The community claims victim-hood because of Feelings (nothing more than feelings). Next the community sues.....

Yes Sirs and Mams... I see no pattern here.

33 posted on 09/03/2007 8:27:00 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes.)
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To: mdittmar

I’ll make a deal with these guys. You stop telling me that my Jewish relatives are pigs who deserve extermination, you stop teaching Nazi propoganda in your schools, you abandon wars against non-believers, you stop killing people for religious purposes, you stop forced conversions, you give up honor killings, you prevent the slave trade between yourselves and unbelievers, you own up to your own excesses in the West African slave trade, you don’t permit people to slice up female genitals, you openly distance yourself from Islamists who want to kill Jews, destroy the West, and murder innocent nonbelievers, you allow churches in Islamic countries, you allow Hindus to practice their religion unmolested, you stop murdering people going to work in a New York skyscraper, or a Balinese nightclub, or a London bus, or a Mumbai bus, you give up using airplanes filled with children and families as guided missles, you stop posting Internet messages calling for murder and genocide because others don’t believe in your religion...

...and then I’ll stop calling you a potential killer, mass murderer, and threat to my survival.


34 posted on 09/03/2007 8:35:21 PM PDT by redpoll (redpoll)
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I really love when I'm at the local Walmart in 100 degree heat and one of these spooky MF's comes in wearing all black except for the little slit where you can see their deranged eyes staring out.

How the hell do I know what they have going on under there?

Seems there ought to be a law against it and after these sick SOB's start blowing themselves up all over the place I guess there will be.

35 posted on 09/03/2007 8:36:51 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: mdittmar

Islam is a death cult.

Mohammad was a pedophilic bandit.

The goal of all Muslims is to forcibly convert non-Muslims who don’t want to be convinced by other means.

Why don’t our Congressharlots understand this?


36 posted on 09/03/2007 8:38:26 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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37 posted on 09/03/2007 8:41:45 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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Six years after the Sept. 11 attacks, Americans should distinguish between mainstream Muslims and the radical fringe, the leaders said.

So, Americans are supposed to accomplish this task, when Muslims don't distinguish between the two. And how fringe are the radicals and we've been looking for "moderate" Muslims for years now.

Bottom line: DON'T PUT THIS OFF ON US, CREEPS! Have you reported the radicals? Or do you defend every terrorist creep out there? Do you push for Muslim Supremacy or not?

38 posted on 09/03/2007 8:42:29 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Just laugh at them!)
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REAL Americans say: "Stop blowing up shit, jump on board with the rest of us, clean up your own house first, or get out of the country if you don't like it, and then we'll stop frisking you!!!"
39 posted on 09/03/2007 8:44:30 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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We are a VERY tolerant country, despite what many in Europe, etc. think. However, the next 9/11 or worse will see all Muslims here running for their lives in short order. Did anyone see the article the other day about Americans owning something like 70% of all privately-owned firearms in the world? Do the math...


40 posted on 09/03/2007 8:46:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Our next president: Fred Thompson!! http://www.ImWithFred.com)
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