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To: antiRepublicrat
Like it or night, I believe that the SCOTUS has ruled that when a police officer demands ID, you have to present it, otherwise you can be arrested. I seem to recall reading about a case like that here on FR.

And if you do business with a store, it seems to me that they have the right to inspect what you bring in with you, or what you leave with. Of course, that policy should be stated up front, so that you can decide if you want to comply with that policy. If you enter and shop, then you agree. If you don't agree, then keep out, and take your business elsewhere.

Mark

64 posted on 09/03/2007 4:33:37 PM PDT by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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To: MarkL

You are incorect, you have to identify yourself (Full Name, Address, DOB), you are not required to furnish a D/L. Cop was over the line, but nothing will come of it. To avoid a suit the Dept may well support the vic, and CC will get nothing from grief from the cops for some time to come.

Local CC management screwed up big time, and there will be consequences (firings, vics lawyers fees, etc). The Dad should file the complaint since he was not involved in the bogus merchandise issue, so that can not be held against him.

Truth be told I have no respect for most lost prevention types and regularly slap them down...something about wannabe rambos interfering with my rights brings out the worst in me.


75 posted on 09/03/2007 4:42:45 PM PDT by Starwolf
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To: MarkL
Like it or night, I believe that the SCOTUS has ruled that when a police officer demands ID, you have to present it, otherwise you can be arrested. I seem to recall reading about a case like that here on FR.

I remember that case, but I don't remember the specifics. I do remember he had been driving a car just before, or had been in the driver's seat or something. In any case, as mentioned, Ohio state law specifically states he doesn't have to show it. The law in the precedent was probably different.

81 posted on 09/03/2007 4:55:02 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: MarkL
I believe that the SCOTUS has ruled that when a police officer demands ID, you have to present it, otherwise you can be arrested

Yes and no....You must identify yourself, but in Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada, they suggested /implied that a person was not required to produce written identification, but could satisfy the requirement merely by stating his or her name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_and_Identify_statutes

155 posted on 09/03/2007 9:10:05 PM PDT by Wheee The People (Go FRed)
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