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To: dbwz
“There’s a formal procedure in this country for changing laws - that’s where we vote and petition to get it to happen (or to not happen).

What’s wrong with the store working within the confines of the law, or putting the lawyers to work looking for loopholes in the law, to practice effective loss prevention?”

because thats how freedoms and rights are lost in this country. idiots like this guy make a big deal over nothing and retailers lobby congress to pass a law saying they may search anyone on their premises. Before you know it we are forced to give up our constitutional right against random search and seizure if we want to shop in private stores, and all because some slimy worm decides that he wants to be a dick and ruin it for everyone. F this guy. He's a selfish @sswipe. see my post # 411.

504 posted on 09/06/2007 10:24:56 AM PDT by monday
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To: monday; dbwz
idiots like this guy make a big deal over nothing and retailers lobby congress to pass a law saying they may search anyone on their premises. Before you know it we are forced to give up our constitutional right against random search and seizure if we want to shop in private stores, and all because some slimy worm decides that he wants to be a dick and ruin it for everyone.

In this case, not standing up for your rights might not only be more convenient but also the right thing to do. There are no constitutional protections that prohibit congress from giving merchants the right to search their customers while on their premises.

If retailers feel that shoplifting or lawsuits brought by guys like the author of this article become too much of a problem, they are not above lobbying congress for such laws to be passed.

I guess I am too stupid to see your point or to see the difference between having a right that you do not exercise and having Congress passing a law that does away with that right.

On the other hand our rights are protected by the Constitution and our rights are protected from infringement by the Federal Government not corporations.

On another hand I don’t think a law is necessary. Circuit City could make the case that they have an implied contract with their customers giving them the right to search all bags or packages. Posting a sign at the entrance to the store stating that management reserves the right to search all packages would give weight to such an argument.

511 posted on 09/06/2007 1:45:02 PM PDT by Pontiac (Patriotism is the natural consequence of having a free mind in a free society.)
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