Terri Schiavo's Family Continues Effort to Block Jack Kevorkian UF Speech

Hippie Writes::::
“It is his right to free speech and maybe a lot of people would learn something..it might open their eyes and get them to deal with the realities of death and dying and at the same time deal with the spiritual and moral and ethical dillemas we all face as technology goes further.

It should be an open discussion. Young people are sandbagged when they have no one to discuss things with when they hear someone like him.”

Nav_mom responds: It is the fact that death loving liberals (except in the cases of trees and frogs) ONLY give students exposure to ONE side of this equation that is so outrageous! Perhaps if the Schiavo family or another speaker who was opposed to “death on demand” were given the same time, $$$ and stage to voice the other side it would not seem so sinister!

Recent words by the Vatican in vindication of Terri have hit the news. Looks like it will be a real impact, folks. This appeared in the Chicago Tribune today:

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...............It is the state Terri Schiavo was in when her husband, Michael Schiavo, asked in 2005 that her feeding tube be withdrawn, which resulted in the woman's death. She was a Catholic, as were her parents, who wanted the device to remain intact.

Prominent Catholics split over the issue. Some bishops said removing the feeding tube would constitute euthanasia. But other well-respected theologians said Catholic traditions allow patients to stop treatments that are overly burdensome.

Religious uncertainty was so pronounced that the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops wrote to Rome in April 2005 requesting a response to two questions.

Is the administration of food and water to a patient in a vegetative state morally obligatory, the bishops asked, and does it make a difference if a patient is permanently unconscious?

Last week, the Vatican's highest theological body responded.

Yes, giving food and water to a patient artificially is a basic means of maintaining life and therefore morally obligatory in most circumstances, it wrote. And no, this obligation doesn't change if a patient has no hope of recovery.

That settles where Rome stands, but it leaves open a host of practical and religious questions.

From a practical standpoint, Catholic health-care institutions—including 615 hospitals and 511 skilled nursing homes across the U.S.—may now have to alter practices.........................

Vatican edict on feeding tube debated

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Here is one of the echoes from that huge blast coming from the Vatican! Hey, Bp. Lynch, where are you these days? Thread by wagglebee...

How many of us, at the time of Terri Schiavo's death, actually heard even so-called "good Catholics" say that they should just let her die because "no one should have to live that way" and other nonsense like that? The real message of this declaration is that no one should have to think that murderous way any more.

The Vatican has spoken with the clear voice of conscience and has also vindicated all of us who fought for Terri's life and dignity, not because we were pro-life activists, but because we are Catholics. Anyone who advocated her death in 2005, whether by sloppy reasoning or culpable agreement with the atrocity, needs to seriously repent and re-evaluate his conscience in light of the Church's teaching. After this declaration, there is no excuse for not getting it right.

Most culpable of all were the so-called "Catholic" theologians, false priests, such as Richard McBrien and John Paris, who shamelessly advocated Terri's death when she was being sold to her killers for thirty pieces of silver. Now that the CDF has made clear what any child knows, this would be the time for them to take a refresher course on actual Catholic teachings.

The Vindication of Terri Schiavo by Vatican's Clear Answer on Nutrition and Hydration

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For those who can't read enough about our Supreme Court, we have this new read by Jeffrey Toobin reviewed in the New York Times. Here is an excerpt. No fair crying for Sandra Day...

In the case of both Justices Kennedy and O’Connor, Mr. Toobin says, the legacy of Bush v. Gore and later the Bush administration itself contributed to a growing alliance with their more liberal colleagues. The story of Justice O’Connor, who helped tip the Bush v. Gore case in favor of President Bush and whose 2005 decision to retire (to spend more time with her ailing husband) would give the president a crucial seat to fill, is in many ways Shakespearean.. Mr. Toobin writes that “the hiring of John Ashcroft, the politicized response to the affirmative action case, the lawless approach to the war on terror, and the accelerating disaster of the war in Iraq all appalled O’Connor.” He says she regarded the Terry Schiavo case as “the latest outrage from the extremists who she believed had hijacked her beloved Republican Party” and adds that she was deeply distressed over the administration’s efforts to undermine judicial independence.

Power Lineup, Swings From Right

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Senator Brownback in SC...

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COLUMBIA, SC - Although Senate votes on Iraq and crucial national security matters forced Senator Sam Brownback to address the Palmetto Family Council via teleconference instead of in person, Senator Brownback thanked the attendees for their work advancing conservative principles and highlighted his record of leadership on the values of faith, family, life and marriage.

"I am very sorry that Senate votes on Iraq, military and national security matters have prevented me from addressing you in person, as I originally hoped to do," said Senator Brownback. "I applaud your efforts advancing the conservative principles that we know are best for our nation, and I am proud to have a strong, consistent record of leadership defending the role of faith, family, life and marriage."

Senator Brownback is an unmatched champion when it comes to fighting for the values of faith, family, life and marriage:

Just today, Senator Brownback introduced a bill that requires an ultrasound for women seeking an abortion.
Norma McCorvey, the "Roe" of Roe v. Wade, endorsed Senator Brownback because he is "the right person, in the right place at the right time for our nation as we seek to embrace a culture of life."
Senator Brownback showed true leadership when he convinced Ted Kennedy--yes, that Ted Kennedy--to co-sponsor a bill that would address the alarming number of babies who are aborted after being diagnosed in the womb with Down Syndrome.
Bobby Schindler, brother of the late Terri Schiavo, endorsed Senator Brownback in recognition of his leadership and consistency, even when it was politically unpopular in Washington, to fight for his sister's life.
Senator Brownback has no peer when it comes to advancing stem cell research and treatments that would not clone or kill human embryos, and he persuaded the Senate to pass his Fetal Farming Prohibition Act.
In 2006, Senator Brownback's committee passed the Marriage Amendment that would protect traditional marriage from being redefined, and Senator Brownback took the lead role debating and promoting the Marriage Amendment on the national stage.
Senator Brownback has pushed tirelessly to improve the quality of our culture and protect our children from indecent media. In 2006, when President Bush signed into law a tenfold increase in broadcast indecency fines, it was Senator Brownback's bill that made it to the president's desk. In 2005, he chaired hearings to examine pornography's impact on marriage, families and children and to strengthen the government's ability to prosecute pornographers.
A few weeks ago, when Democrats in the U.S. Senate moved to overturn the Mexico City Policy--which prevents American taxpayer dollars from supporting overseas organizations that provide abortions--Senator Brownback lead the pro-life fight and introduced the amendment that would have kept this key pro-life policy intact.

Brownback Touts Conservative Values In S.C.

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Still linking Fred Thompson with Terri...

The media is still at it, reminding about Terri. They shout, "Can't you see, Fred, that albatross tied around our media necks?"

Over the last week, Thompson's statements have created controversy, fueling the perception among some that he is not fully engaged.

When asked in Florida about his views on the Terri Schiavo case, in which Schiavo's husband battled her family to end her life support, Thompson said, "I don't remember the details" of a controversy that became a cause célèbre among religious conservatives. He also left open the possibility of oil drilling in the Florida Everglades, prompting rival Mitt Romney to say later: "You're kidding. . . . The people of Florida would never support such a thing," according to an NBC News report. Just yesterday, he told NBC News, "I don't know anything about" the highly publicized case of six black teenagers initially charged with attempted murder in Jena, La., where thousands marched in protest with top civil rights leaders.

Thompson run remains an enigma... Candidate's harsh reviews clash with polls

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Now I understand the meaning of OpEd especially at this website. That evasive term gives us trouble sometime as to its meaning but I think I cracked the puzzle. It means Opposite of Edification. (Or is it Opposed to...?)

Here is indication enough:

The horror stories of the regressive right – and of its most carcinogenic manifestation, the corporation now doing business as the Bush administration – are as widely dispersed as they are deeply destructive. Virtually everything they’ve put their greasy mitts upon has turned disastrous, from Iraq to Afghanistan, from civil liberties to civil rights, from Terri Schiavo to Pat Tillman, and from Hurricane Katrina to the ocean of public debt being left to our children. It is, of course, without doubt far worse than we presently know, and perhaps far worse than we’ll ever know, for surely some crimes will never be detected, and likely few will ever be punished.

Hiding Behind The Camouflage Skirt

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Aw, Geezzz, Mikey, those meanies, they can't take a joke...

Thread by wagglebee.

St. Petersburg, FL(LifeNews.com) -- The former husband of Terri Schiavo has decided to close down the political action committee he created to go after pro-life lawmakers who sided with Terri's family in their efforts to save her life. The decision comes after several run-ins with the Federal Election Commission for problematic reports.

After ordering her painful two-week-long starvation and dehydration death in March 2005, Michael Schiavo created the PAC to target pro-life lawmakers who tried to stop him from killing her.

Schiavo says on the group's web site that the PAC limited his ability to speak out about his viewpoint on Terri's death and that he doesn't like asking for money for the political group to continue.

Terri Schiavo's Ex-Husband Closes His Political Action Committee

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A reminder: Nancy Grant has been a supporter of Terri and as a Florida resident confronts Florida justice.

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FLORIDA GRANDMOTHER CONVICTED OF JAIL MINISTRY CRIME

May Get Life Sentence for Helping Prisoners Exercise Constitutional Rights

by Bob Hurt (http://bobhurt.com)

Arcadia, Florida, 21 August 2007

Judge Lee Haworth addressed the crowd of more than 30 spectators in the Desoto County courtroom. He demanded order and silence from the observers, many of whom had traveled far in support of Arcadia resident Nancy Grant. This, the fourth and final day of the trial, might raise tensions, so Haworth warned everyone he would brook no disturbances, not even murmurs or untoward facial expressions.

He had good reason for concern, according to Bob Hurt, one of We the People of Florida and an observer present at the trial. Grant, a grandmother of four children, ages 4 to 7, stood trial for 19 criminal counts of unlicensed practice of law. She could get 95 years in prison if the jury found her guilty. The 20 members of We the People of Florida there in her support would not like a guilty verdict.

"Haworth seemed to know the jury of five women and one man would find her guilty," Hurt said.

FLORIDA GRANDMOTHER CONVICTED OF JAIL MINISTRY CRIME... May Get Life Sentence for Helping Prisoners Exercise Constitutional Rights

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"We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest."

From Cary McMullen, here in the Tuscaloosa News...

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Terri Schiavo has been dead for 21/2 years. Her parents and siblings now have an answer on an important question: Was her death natural and moral, or not?

The Vatican’s answer: Not, on both counts.

No doubt you remember the Schiavo case. The Florida woman collapsed and went into a coma in 1990 and was later diagnosed as being in a permanent vegetative state. Her husband, Michael, won a malpractice settlement, used at first for her care at a nursing home, then later sought to have her nutrition and hydration tubes disconnected because, he said, she told him she wouldn’t want to live that way.

Terri’s parents, Robert and Mary Schindler, fought this in the courts for seven years but ultimately lost. The Florida Legislature and even Congress would eventually get involved, but the tubes were disconnected, and Terri died in March 2005.

About four months after her death, U.S. Catholic bishops asked two questions of the Vatican. Last week, the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith issued a response. (The Vatican’s wheels grind slowly but exceedingly fine.)

The first question: “Is the administration of food and water (whether by natural or artificial means) to a patient in a ‘vegetative state’ morally obligatory...?”

Answer: Yes. Even by artificial means, food and water is “ordinary and proportionate means of preserving life” and therefore obligatory, said the Vatican.

Second question: “When nutrition and hydration are being supplied by artificial means to a patient in a ‘permanent vegetative state,’ may they be discontinued when competent physicians judge with moral certainty that the patient will never recover consciousness?”

Answer: No. Because a person in a permanent vegetative state is “a person with fundamental human dignity,” he or she must receive “ordinary and proportionate care,” according to the response........................................

CARY MCMULLEN: Did Terry Schiavo die naturally?

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From the St. Pete Times...

The summit featured some of the national movement's biggest names. It included a rare appearance by former Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris as well as Bobby Schindler, the late Terri Schiavo's brother.

With a congregation of more than 6,000, Bell Shoals Baptist has always been a politically active church. Two years ago, when a bikini bar came to Valrico, Bell Shoals members stood outside with picket signs. For years, the church has hosted candidate lunches at every election.

But this is the first time it has drawn attention from national groups such as Focus on the Family, the Family Research Council and Exodus International.

Religious right summit draws prominent speakers

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From WND...

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"The more we have these terrorist cells all around the country, all around the world," said Marueen Flynn, of International Week of Prayer and Fasting Coalition, "the more we need to counteract with prayer groups.

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Citing the Mark 9:29 reference that: "Certain evil spirits can only be driven out by prayer and fasting," the group has announced plans for its 15th annual International Week of Prayer and Fasting starting Oct. 5.

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Then on Oct. 8 will be the Eucharistic Prayer Day at the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception, with Rev. Frank Pavone, national director of Priests for Life, as well as Bobby Schindler, the brother of Terri Schiavo, and Rev. Clement Machado of the Vatican.

'Culture of Life' warriors to assemble 'The more we have terror cells, the more we need prayer groups'

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Media Mutters,

Lefties swing the moon bat, slamming another powerful bunt...

3) It gives the elite political press another chapter in the story it's been chewing on for the past 20 years -- that the Democrats are nervous about their left-wing base, which will enable the cats 'n kittens to ignore the fact that the Republican base, which has been driving the crazy train since the turn of the century, holds positions embraced in many cases by a whopping one-third of the population. (Fred Thompson and Rudy Giuliani were down in Florida this week, for pity's sake, proudly pandering to the lunatic dead-enders in the Terri Schiavo case as though that wasn't one of the biggest political fiascos of the past 20 years.) It prevents them from being forced to write about gutted civil liberties and exhausted soldiers, neither of which most of the elite political press give a rat's ass about.

Altercation by Eric Alterman

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Fred Thompson made two mistakes regarding Terri.

First, he should have recognized the Terri issue was one of solid pro-life, a stand essential to a conservative candidacy.

Second, he miscalculated the resolve of the media. For, like a snarling mouse protecting its wound, the media for two and a half years have suffered the burden of Terri's Legacy tied 'round their shoulders. It is certain they would pounce on anyone opening their wound and will hang on with locked jaws.

Perhaps realizing now the gravity of these two missteps, he will rapidly take the lesson to heart and find out what really happened with Terri.

Lobbyist Fred Thompson continues to bumble and stumble across the campaign trail after a lackluster campaign rollout. This week he showed that he just hasn't done his homework on many issues, enforcing the belief that he's just not up for the job. Thompson said he would participate in a New Hampshire debate that had already been canceled, that he didn't know enough to comment on what he would have done regarding Terry Schiavo, and was caught completely off guard when asked about drilling for oil in the Florida Everglades, despite it being a major issue in the state for years. These major gaffes could explain why conservative pundits are panning his performance and recent polls show that Thompson's announcement didn't give him a bounce in the polls. [http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=28702]

DNC: Michigan Republicans Set to Choose 'None of the Above'

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Another OpEd piece appears here (Opposing Edification...) as Randy thoughts.

In a classic portrayal of leftist projection, of haters calling people they hate haters, they toss their own failings on their adversaries i.e. normal people.

The truth is, the right gets their Phony Outrage Base to pounce at every opportunity. They’ve condemned everything from the “War on Christmas” to the Terri Schiavo ordeal to botched jokes to scarves sold at Urban Outfitters. Neo-conservatives pretend to get angry at an issue and, in doing so, make the Democrats look weak. (That’s why the Iraq war resolution was supported by a bi-partisan consensus in the first place. No one was allowed to look at the intelligence objectively. If you didn’t vote in favor of the invasion, that meant you didn’t support the troops. Or better yet, you were inviting another 9/11.)

If anyone wants to contact the author of this masterpiece, he invites responses to his email on the link.

The Phony Outrage Base

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