[Bender2]

Re: If you cannot graps that, I am sorry, but that has been the point of the discussion from the beginning and no amount of insults or ignorance regarding those facts will change them.

Jeff, if you cannot read a map, I truly feel sorry for you and cannot understand why you keep saying you are right in the face of facts and any map? Look at any map and scale off the distances. The listed range for the SU-30MK cannot be wrong, the map cannot be wrong, the ruler cannot be wrong, but you sure are.

If I were wrong on such a simple point, I would not like admitting my ignorance, but I would! To know you are wrong and refuse to admit it, only proves stupidity and I hate to see you paint yourself into that corner.

I've enjoyed your past posts, especially on the Aircraft Carriers, but you are showing a side I find most unlike my past opinion of your knowledge on military and current political matters.

If you want to cling to this, okay!

I, the listed range for the SU-30MK, all maps and all rulers are wrong while you alone are correct!

Happy?

[Jeff Head]

Bender2, I can certainly read a map. I am not whistling dixie or tinkling in the wind here. Clearly, we are talking right past each other.

The Venezuelans have purchased the SU-30MK2s and the Venezuelans also have in-flight refueling capability with both KC-135 and C-130H aircraft. The new SU-30MK2s have the ability to be refueled in-flight which extends their range. I guess I took it for granted that you knew this...clearly, that was my bad.

That puts the UK route within their range.

Venezuelan SU-30MK2s

Venezuelan Boeing 707-384C (KC-135)

[Jeff Head]

Sorry, the Venezuelkan KC-135 pic did not show up from the site...I have uploaded it myself to my server. Here it is:

Venezuelan Boeing 707-384C (KC-135)