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Chavez vows revenge for Falklands war
The Sunday Times Online (UK) ^
| September 2, 2007
| Martin Arostegui
Posted on 09/02/2007 1:51:41 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: 353FMG
Nor would you expect it to be.
To: FreedomPoster
To: Travis McGee
British Navy To Be Cut In Half Today, government at all levels in the UK takes 43% of the national income. That is $1.15 trillion per year. Slightly more than half of that is spending at the national level. And they think they can't afford half the navy they had yesterday, which was already a tiny, 44 ship fleet.
Why? Because Britain is no longer a serious nation. Hasn't been for quite some time. A minority continue to put up a good show, but the bulk of the country has decided that the best use of wealth is to sit on their collective backsides collecting government checks and feeling really, really self-righteous.
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posted on
09/02/2007 3:51:51 PM PDT
by
JasonC
To: tanknetter
I was shocked when I discovered they retired the Harrier FR2.
However in this scenario South Atlantis cover could be provided from the Falklands and Mid Atlantic cover from Ascension Island by Tornado F3’s or the new Typhoons.
To: Squantos
I volunteer to be her spotter!
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posted on
09/02/2007 3:55:47 PM PDT
by
BnBlFlag
(Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
To: JasonC
Sounds depressingly familiar to the situation just before the Falklands war. Then it was a Conservative government about to make large cuts to the Navy and reduce it to a coastal defence force.
To: Jeff Head
Talk about stuck on stupid!
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posted on
09/02/2007 4:03:00 PM PDT
by
Poser
(Willing to fight for oil)
To: protest1
But there would be points, as they passed, where the Venezuelan aircraft could maximize their legs while the UK aircraft were at the end of theirs. It would be dicey without strong caiier task force fleet air defense. I believe the US could and should use a Nimitz and its escorts for the additional scurity.
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posted on
09/02/2007 4:03:01 PM PDT
by
Jeff Head
(Liberty is not Free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
To: Jeff Head
PRELIM Strike on their air fields with Cruise Missles
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posted on
09/02/2007 4:04:10 PM PDT
by
uncbob
(m first)
To: protest1
But the navy was literally 3 times as large then. After these cuts, the British navy will be 1/6th the size it was in 1980. Meanwhile, British GDP per capita has risen 4 fold over the same period. They are vastly better off, the government takes 43% of the national income, and delivers bumpkiss for it. Just handouts, that is all they can even think of paying for anymore.
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posted on
09/02/2007 4:06:43 PM PDT
by
JasonC
To: Niteflyr
The US is under attack internally by Mexicans...and externally by radical Muslims...and latin american socialists like Chavez...how can we be so blind??It's not a matter of being blind. The Democrats are actively aiding and assisting all of our enemies.
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posted on
09/02/2007 4:08:54 PM PDT
by
Caipirabob
(Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
To: JasonC; Travis McGee; Jeff Head
>British Navy To Be Cut In Half<
I wonder if this is the reason Chavez has chosen this time to beat his chest.
Ah, universal healthcare. Now there’s a great idea.
To: Jeff Head
Before that, if there were ar repeat taking of the Islands, he would probably station men, material, aircraft, and potentially subs down there prior to the British arriving.
Yep and the BRITS ain't gonna be able to react overnight
Without massive USA support they would not even attempt to take the Islands back
And that would mean the American public would have to back it --not all that certain with all the other world wide situations .I wonder if even the UK would not just give upthe Islands today
Wonder if Chavez is trying to give Argentina ideas
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posted on
09/02/2007 4:11:44 PM PDT
by
uncbob
(m first)
To: Jeff Head
“It just means all the more that they will need our direct military help..”
Is that not exactly what most western nations have been expecting since the creation of NATO? It has been American blood and money that has allowed Europe to build their socialist structure, because what they saved by not having to take care of their defense, they misspent on cuddling the masses. We are, in part, guilty of the European disaster.
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posted on
09/02/2007 4:12:30 PM PDT
by
353FMG
(Government is the opiate of the people.)
To: Caipirabob
It's not a matter of being blind. The Democrats are actively aiding and assisting all of our enemies.Maybe just stupidity...you would have to be ...as it will doom you and yours in the process...
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posted on
09/02/2007 4:16:28 PM PDT
by
Niteflyr
("If you’re drawing flak, you know you're over the target".)
To: Jeff Head
Today we could sink the British fleet.Not...a...good...plan
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posted on
09/02/2007 4:18:24 PM PDT
by
Jim Noble
(Trails of troubles, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
To: 353FMG
We are, in part, guilty of the European disaster.
Yeah but Britain has chosen her own path of socialism
They started before WWII
I remember reading in Reagan's Diaries that he called Thatcher when we were going into Grenada and she told him not to do it (Iron Lady ?)
He told her the troops were on the way
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posted on
09/02/2007 4:21:01 PM PDT
by
uncbob
(m first)
To: 353FMG
Is that not exactly what most western nations have been expecting since the creation of NATO? It has been American blood and money that has allowed Europe to build their socialist structure, because what they saved by not having to take care of their defense, they misspent on cuddling the masses. We are, in part, guilty of the European disaster.
Yep and if we fail in the ME their sorry butts will be muslim controlled
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posted on
09/02/2007 4:23:03 PM PDT
by
uncbob
(m first)
To: uncbob
Their sorry butts are already Muslim controlled and so are some of our sorry butts in Congress.
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posted on
09/02/2007 4:25:09 PM PDT
by
353FMG
(Government is the opiate of the people.)
To: protest1
Sounds depressingly familiar to the situation just before the Falklands war. Then it was a Conservative government about to make large cuts to the Navy and reduce it to a coastal defence force.
Aregentina's timing was stupid
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posted on
09/02/2007 4:25:25 PM PDT
by
uncbob
(m first)
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