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Treason at the Kos? (Report: U.S. Navy Officer in Theater Leaks Iran Attack Details to Kos Diarist)
MacsMind.com ^ | Sunday, Sepember 2, 2007 | Macranger

Posted on 09/02/2007 1:09:49 PM PDT by kristinn

This might just be another BS moment at the Kos - they’ve had so many of them I’ve lost count. But if this is legit we just had a serious breach of national security.

“I have a friend who is an LSO on a carrier attack group that is planning and staging a strike group deployment into the Gulf of Hormuz. (LSO: Landing Signal Officer- she directs carrier aircraft while landing) She told me we are going to attack Iran. She said that all the Air Operation Planning and Asset Tasking are finished. That means that all the targets have been chosen, prioritized, and tasked to specific aircraft, bases, carriers, missile cruisers and so forth.

I asked her why she is telling me this.Her answer was really amazing. ….”I know this will sound crazy coming from a Naval officer”, she said. “But we’re all just waiting for this administration to end. Things that happen at the senior officer level seem more and more to happen outside of the purview of XOs and other officers who typically have a say-so in daily combat and flight operations. Today, orders just come down from the mountaintop and there’s no questioning. In fact, there is no discussing it. I have seen more than one senior commander disappear and then three weeks later we find out that he has been replaced. That’s really weird. It’s also really weird because everyone who has disappeared has questioned whether or not we should be staging a massive attack on Iran.”"We’re not stupid. Most of the members of the fleet read well enough to know what is going on world-wise. We also realize that anyone who has any doubts is in danger of having a long military career yanked out from under them. Keep in mind that most of the people I serve with are happy to be a part of the global war on terror. It’s just that the touch points are what we see since we are the ones out here who are supposedly implementing this grand strategy. But when you liason with administration officials who don’t know that Iranians don’t speak Arabic and have no idea what Iranians live like, then you start having second thoughts about whether these Administration officials are even competent.”

(So much for the “apolitical” moniker)

“I asked her about the attack, how limited and so forth.

“I don’t think it’s limited at all. We are shipping in and assigning every damn Tomahawk we have in inventory. I think this is going to be massive and sudden, like thousands of targets. I believe that no American will know when it happens until after it happens. And whatever the consequences, whatever the consequences, they will have to be lived with. I am sure if my father knew I was telling someone in a news organization that we were about to launch a supposedly secret attack that it would be treason. But something inside me tells me to tell it anyway.”

I asked her why she was suddenly so cynical.

“I have become cynical only recently. I also don’t believe anyone will be able to stop this. Bush has become something of an Emperor. He will give the command, and cruise missiles will fly and aircraft will fly and people will die, and yet few of us here are really able to cobble together a great explanation of why this is a good idea. Of course many of us can give you the 4H Club lecture on democracy in the Mid East. But if you asked any of the flight officers whether they have a clear idea of what the goal of this strike is, your answer would sound like something out of a think tank policy paper. But it’s not like Kosovo or when we relieved the tsunami victims. There everyone could tell you in a sentence what we were here doing.”

“That’s what’s missing. A real sense of purpose. What’s missing is the answer to what the hell are we doing out here threatening this country with all this power? Last night in the galley, an ensign asked what right do we have to tell a sovereign nation that they can’t build a nuke. I mean the table got EF Hutton quiet. Not so much because the man was asking a question that was off culture. But that he was asking a good question. In fact, the discussion actually followed afterwards topside where someone in our group had to smoke a cigarette. The discussion was intelligent but also in lowered voices. It’s like we aren’t allowed to ask the questions that we always ask before combat. It’s almost as if the average seaman or soldier is doing all the policy work.”

She had to hang up. She left by telling me that she believes the attack is a done deal. “It’s only a matter of time before their orders come and they will be sent to station and told to go to Red Alert. She said they were already practicing traps, FARP and FAST.” (Trapping is the act of catching the tension wires when landing on the carrier, FARP is Fleet Air Combat Maneuvering Readiness Program- practice dogfighting- and FAST is Fleet Air Superiority Training).

She seemed lost. The first time in my life I have ever heard her sound off rhythm, or unsure of why she is doing something. She knows that there is something rotten in the Naval Command and she, like many of her associates are just hoping that the election brings in someone new, some new situation, or something.

“Yes. We’re gong to hit Iran, bigtime. Whatever political discussion that are going in is window dressing and perhaps even a red herring. I see what’s going on below deck here in the hangars and weapons bays. And I have a sick feeling about how it’s all going to turn out.”

I passed this post on to the ONI AG - Office of Naval Intelligence AG to have a look-see and see if they can find this young lady - if she exists and have a chat. An active duty officer on a ship preparing for operations giving out the op plans to said operation is called - treason.

Again, considering the source (Kos), buyer beware, but if true the poster who goes by the name “Maccabee” - will be having some visitors.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; iraq; islam; israel; kos; leaks; marines
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To: CCGuy

certain things lead me to believe this is made up and it is written by someone with very little respect for our military.

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I wholeheartedly agree. “She” is talking about their daily maneuvers and considering what may happen after January 2009. There is about 18 months difference in these two references. Hardly an “if A then B” scenario.

This reeks of VLWC thought processes, and as phony as the National Guard files that just happened to surface about Lt Bush’s service records.


121 posted on 09/02/2007 2:50:49 PM PDT by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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To: armymarinemom
If you ask them why they jump out of a perfectly good airplane, they answer "there is no perfectly good airplane".

I've heard that from him too, a bit brave since all his cousins are AF vets. ;)

122 posted on 09/02/2007 2:51:45 PM PDT by Heatseeker
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To: livius
It is interesting that so many Jews are Kos affiliates. National Socialists do not have a very good history of religious tolerance.

This is just nonsense that has been given an "appearance" of legitimacy by a group which, intentionally or not, supports (for whatever absurd reason) Islamic jihad and tyrannical totalitarianism (which is the very thing they feign to rant against).

123 posted on 09/02/2007 2:53:36 PM PDT by picard (Liberal: ability to supplant reality with multiple truths which are all in opposition to each other)
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To: STARWISE

124 posted on 09/02/2007 2:54:34 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: kristinn

1. A LSO isn’t going to get many details on targets, or even weapons load outs.
2. I have the greatest confidence in the patriotism of our Naval Officers and Sailors.
3. I imagine that this is a wannabe dreaming up his idea of what the “EVEL BOOSH REJIM” would do.


125 posted on 09/02/2007 2:56:34 PM PDT by donmeaker (You may not be interested in War but War is interested in you.)
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To: armymarinemom

Would “Marine carrier” refer to amphibious assault ships?


126 posted on 09/02/2007 3:01:53 PM PDT by Styria
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To: HardStarboard; shrinkermd; Bob J; rlmorel; USNBandit

It was co-inicidental that this item was posted here.
I had just finished reading Neptunus Lex’s evaluation.
The assessment is HIS.
He is a Carrier Naval Aviator, with considerable rank.

If you go to his site, you will see all the Units he has flown in.

http://www.neptunuslex.com/ (NEPTUNUS LEX)


127 posted on 09/02/2007 3:02:04 PM PDT by radar101 (Duncan Hunter-The only possibility)
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To: kristinn

Been reading the comments.

Box of rocks, bud, box of rocks.

There’s no telling how far back their paranoia goes. Every stupid conspiracy and whacko nutjob theory blended with fertilizer and a toke and what have you?

Kos and company.


128 posted on 09/02/2007 3:05:06 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Psycho_Bunny

You are so right.


129 posted on 09/02/2007 3:05:08 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: radar101
We just don’t talk about ourselves that way, especially pilots - and all LSO’s are pilots.Thanks for taking the time to write such a thorough analysis. The above sentence just jumped out at me, too. Pilots are pilots, like doctors are doctors. Navigators, etc are flight officers, aviators, and not pilots.
130 posted on 09/02/2007 3:05:20 PM PDT by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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To: shield

Holy crap, that may be the ugliest human being I’ve ever seen in my life.


131 posted on 09/02/2007 3:07:32 PM PDT by lesser_satan (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: All

Update.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/9/2/15560/00042


132 posted on 09/02/2007 3:08:08 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Greg F
If they have been taking every available Tomohawk on board and out of inventory then this is news that shouldn’t be disseminated.

Why? Anyone with an IQ over 75 knows it. It isn't news.

133 posted on 09/02/2007 3:11:04 PM PDT by jammer
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To: Vigilantcitizen

>>This might be another BS moment at the kos


Or disinformation spread be an useful idiot.<<

Yep, the more the KOSers focus on whether we will attack Iran, the less effort they have to try to push us out of Iraq.


134 posted on 09/02/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words)
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To: radar101

Excellent! I went to his blog and checked it out. I have bookmarked it and will visit there often.

Thanks for the attribution...


135 posted on 09/02/2007 3:17:22 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: rlmorel

;)


136 posted on 09/02/2007 3:17:54 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE

bookmark


137 posted on 09/02/2007 3:20:25 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: kristinn
Good post Kristinn...
Now what we need to do is have the Dimocrat Committee Chairmen hold a whole series of hearings on this - BUT - MUST start with demand that they: 1. investigate kos and their posters. 2. that they uncover this gross misconduct (treason) in our military and 3. that this LSO be grilled before their committee!

kristinn - keelhaul? On a carrier? WOW - that would be waterboarding X 1000.
138 posted on 09/02/2007 3:21:45 PM PDT by DelaWhere (I'm with Fred!)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace
From that update:

"Right. Rather than rely on the right's characterization of the diarist, Kos could write his own analysis or deliberately invite critical scrutiny from the community at large here. There was real skepticism in the Iran diary from posters on this site. No need to make the right-winger a font of wisdom. And as for the right laughing at us - that's nothing new and nothing to fear. "
139 posted on 09/02/2007 3:22:43 PM PDT by james500
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

Very interesting. Didn’t take long, did it? Mr. Beauchump! Paging Mr. Beauchump!


140 posted on 09/02/2007 3:23:02 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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