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Mark Steyn: There were two creeps in the men's room
http://www.ocregister.com/opinion/craig-stall-bathroom-1836749-karsnia-room ^ | Mark Steyn

Posted on 09/01/2007 9:03:41 PM PDT by ventanax5

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1 posted on 09/01/2007 9:03:44 PM PDT by ventanax5
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To: ventanax5

He had me dying on Hewitt’s show; Barnett was sitting in so it was double crazy.

At the townhall site. Talk radio.


2 posted on 09/01/2007 9:05:43 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Today's stolen graphics courtesy of: http://arewelumberjacks.blogspot.com/)
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To: ventanax5

I found many men didn’t know the code; I thought it was a good time to post this just in case:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzO1mCAVyMw


3 posted on 09/01/2007 9:07:45 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Today's stolen graphics courtesy of: http://arewelumberjacks.blogspot.com/)
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To: ventanax5
The Baron von Richthoven of the Minneapolis Bathroom Patrol

LOL

4 posted on 09/01/2007 9:08:53 PM PDT by new cruelty
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To: ventanax5

It creeps me out just reading this news story. Two Creepy men , doing creepy things, in a creepy bathroom. Ewwwwww


5 posted on 09/01/2007 9:09:13 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ( my opinions do not represent the opinions of the management at Free Republic, they are mine alone.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

If I got to take a leak I go do what I need to do as quickly as possible. Any thing beyond that I wait until I get home.


6 posted on 09/01/2007 9:11:15 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: ventanax5

Without agreed “moral standards,” all you have is the law. When it’s no longer clear something is wrong, all you can do is make it illegal.

Sadly I fear that is where we are today.


7 posted on 09/01/2007 9:11:44 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: ventanax5

George Michael, to the vice cop: “If you wanna do it, do it right (right!), do it with me...”


8 posted on 09/01/2007 9:12:47 PM PDT by RichInOC ("Get back! Hands off! Go for it!"--heard coming out of the restroom as George was arrested)
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To: kalee
If its wrong and you can not make it illegal, then put a “sin tax” on it.Kind of like selling indulgences.
barbra ann
9 posted on 09/01/2007 9:19:20 PM PDT by barb-tex (Why replace the IRS with anything?)
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To: ventanax5
Mark Steyn at his funniest:

"Just so. Sgt. Karsnia is paid by the police Department to sit in a stall in the men's room all day, like a spider waiting for the flies. The Baron von Richthoven of the Minneapolis Bathroom Patrol has notched up a phenomenal number of kills and knows what to look for – the tapping foot in the adjoining stall, a hand signal under the divider. Did you know that tapping your foot in a bathroom was a recognized indicator that a criminal act is about to occur?"

Few cops - even vice cops - would care to go in to that line of work. I think even the legendary Baron Richthoven didn't have that many kills in his Red Baron. I sorta pity St. Karsnia for being alert to feet being tapped in the wrong direction!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

10 posted on 09/01/2007 9:28:49 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: ventanax5

I pray the senator does not kill himself and he can live with this, if society will allow it to fade away...

This is a tragic story for all around and who ever leak this with out more facts should also face the public humiliation!


11 posted on 09/01/2007 9:30:17 PM PDT by restornu (Most of Cyber Space passes through FR portals ~ Freepers Are Some Of The Most Aware People On Earth!)
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To: ventanax5
"Would you like to take care of my wheelie for five minutes?"

I 'bout DIED laughing! Steyn is the Greatest.

12 posted on 09/01/2007 9:31:37 PM PDT by Nevermore
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To: ventanax5
By a strange coincidence, Mark Steyn happened to pass that same bathroom in that same terminal in that same airport. He must be equipped with the finest entrapment detector known to man, since as he puts it:

As it happens, I passed by the very same men's room at the Lindbergh Terminal only a couple of months ago. I didn't go in, however.

Yep, before Larry Craig's infamous encounter became public knowledge, you wouldn't have known of Steyn's own encounter with coincidence!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

13 posted on 09/01/2007 9:35:16 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Borax Queen; Czar
Your inability to live up to your own standards does not, in and of itself, nullify them. The left gives the impression that a Republican senator caught in a whorehouse ought immediately to say, "You're right. I should have supported earmarks for hookers in the 2005 appropriations bill." That's the reason why sex scandals take down Republicans but not Democrats: Sex-wise, the left's standards are that whatever's your bag is cool – which is the equivalent of no standards. Thus, Monica Lewinsky was a "grown woman" free to make her own decisions on the carpet of the Oval Office. Without agreed "moral standards," all you have is the law. When it's no longer clear something is wrong, all you can do is make it illegal.

And so we have the bizarre situation of a United States senator convicted of the crime of brushing his foot and placing his carry-on luggage in the only available space of a men's room stall. Larry Craig feebly accused Sgt. Karsnia of "entrapping" him but, in fact, the officer didn't even need to entrap him into anything other than an allegedly intrusive shoe movement. That's a crime? On the tape, Craig sounds sad and pathetic, a prominent man cornered in a sordid transaction. Yet Karsnia sounds just as weird and creepy: a guy who's paid to sit in a bathroom stall for hours on end observing adjoining ankles. I'd rather hand out traffic tickets.

Good article (also humorous, as usual)...he made some valid points here...likely Craig is guilty...OTOH...are we all to be concerned about how we tap our feet, or where we place our bags? 1984....Big Brother anyone????
14 posted on 09/01/2007 9:43:47 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: goldstategop
I’m scratchin my head how someone remembers something like that...unless it’s the only men’s room in the terminal.
15 posted on 09/01/2007 9:45:17 PM PDT by stylin19a (Go Bears !)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Mark's coup d'grace is straight out of a classic dime store novel with the same noir atmosphere denouement:

And so we have the bizarre situation of a United States senator convicted of the crime of brushing his foot and placing his carry-on luggage in the only available space of a men's room stall. Larry Craig feebly accused Sgt. Karsnia of "entrapping" him but, in fact, the officer didn't even need to entrap him into anything other than an allegedly intrusive shoe movement. That's a crime? On the tape, Craig sounds sad and pathetic, a prominent man cornered in a sordid transaction. Yet Karsnia sounds just as weird and creepy: a guy who's paid to sit in a bathroom stall for hours on end observing adjoining ankles. I'd rather hand out traffic tickets.

There's nothing about this episode that makes any one think any good came of it. The foot-tapping may have constituted questionable grounds for suspecting a crime but the subsequent interrogation leaves one feeling mystified at how a mundane event could turn out to be both pathetic and sordid at the same time.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

16 posted on 09/01/2007 9:54:52 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Grizzled Bear

I have to defend the cop, here. In fact, the cop who gets caught up in the underworld he seeks to police is a common theme. Most notably, ironically enough, in CRUISING, which is so un-PC as to be RIGHT OUT. In this case, based on the post-arrest interview, I thought the cop represented himself as a technician. There certainly was a lot of psychology in operation though, in the way he kept his distance. He kept mentioning “respect”, and seemed to indicate that most of his, um, detainees, readily confessed to what they were up to, and that he pretty much showered them with respect in the spirit of reciprocity. He reacted to Craig’s stonewalling by saying that Craig was disrespecting him. Of course we all know that cops hate being lied to, just because they get so sick of it.

It is interesting the way the cop was trying to orthogonalize the whole thing. It reminded me of several scenes in CRUISING which showed the moral disorientation of Pacino. I’m thinking of “cop night”, and the scene where he shows a yellow handkerchief as a come-on, and gets upbraided by some guy when he backs off from an invitation to “water sports”.


17 posted on 09/01/2007 10:19:13 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Grizzled Bear
If I got to take a leak I go do what I need to do as quickly as possible. Any thing beyond that I wait until I get home.

Damn right!

18 posted on 09/01/2007 10:20:55 PM PDT by SIDENET (Inventor of the 12-hour "power nap".)
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To: ventanax5
Your inability to live up to your own standards does not, in and of itself, nullify them.

Important point.

19 posted on 09/01/2007 10:31:08 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Brian J. Marotta, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub, (1948-2007) Rest In Peace, our FRiend)
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To: goldstategop
By a strange coincidence, Mark Steyn happened to pass that same bathroom in that same terminal in that same airport. He must be equipped with the finest entrapment detector known to man, since as he puts it:

As it happens, I passed by the very same men's room at the Lindbergh Terminal only a couple of months ago. I didn't go in, however.

Yep, before Larry Craig's infamous encounter became public knowledge, you wouldn't have known of Steyn's own encounter with coincidence!

While I'm not familiar with this particular airport, I don't find it at all unusual that Steyn could remember having passed the men's room there without going in. He doesn't say anything about deliberately avoiding the men's room because of any fear of entrapment.

20 posted on 09/01/2007 11:01:00 PM PDT by Bob
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