EDITORIAL: Ticketing smokers

Las Vegas Review-Journal ^ | 8-16-07 | Las Vegas Review-Journal

[ichabod1]

prediction: He will get fat again and I am going to laugh and laugh...

[TornadoAlley3]

Voters approved this. Dumb.

[DakotaRed]

I hope you feel it is also “a good thing” when “we the people” vote to regulate what you eat, drink, drive, wear, activities you may engage in or live as well.

Can you honestly say that initiatives for smoking bans receive fair and balanced representation for both sides of the issue?

They sure didn’t here in Washington State. Of course, to advertise opposition to a smoking ban can be construed as advertising for smoking and that is illegal.

Bolsheviks rejoice, America is rapidly becoming the Union of Socialist States of America with sheeple willing bringing it on.

[jnsun]

"- The new law, approved by voters in November,_"

Of course one can argue, "that's what the voters wanted", but I'm not convinced.

Over and over one can hear in the media "the American people believe - blah, blah; the American people want,- blah blah" when in fact there is no evidence whatsoever that is what the majority believe, particularly when presented intelligent analysis and options.

In the case of voted issues the option(s)presented are routinely simplistic and arrogant.

I don't know how the Nevada referendum was worded, but you can be sure there were infinitely many other options which would allow those private businesses which embraced smoking to continue to do so, while backing up those who prohibited it. This is the ignorant reactionary status of Americans now, and indeed proves that it IS all about control of such. The LEFT is constituted of those who allow themselves to be controlled, along with those who relish the control.

Another example as mentioned on another thread is healthcare. So it's soooo prohibitivly expensive government "must" take it over, when in fact there are many free market scenarios for drastically cutting the costs.

Politicians, like Hollywood, only care about self aggrandizement through simplistic emotionalism, not about solving problems. And the citizens who buy it are egomanaically emotional, they can only exist within their own ego's. Thus the definition of the LEFT, and stupidity.

Years ago Communism was fully accepted as the institution of the ignorant.

[Kimberly GG]

I’ve noticed the signs popping up in a lot of storefronts in Ohio. If you smoke to close to the doors, it gives a telephone number for others to rat you out to the smoking nazi police squads.

[ichabod1]

I’m sorry, but I’ve had a hankerin to do this ever since I saw your screen name:

Popocatapetl is not in mexico, maybe in malaga malaga malaga.

[GOP_Lady]

Here is that sign for all to see how Ohioans treat one another...

http://www.odh.ohio.gov/ASSETS/9FF7EB2100CC44B48278D44DFC632E01/Color4x6.pdf

[Haddit]

It is happening here in the Los Angeles area of Calabasas. They will not let people in their own condominiums and apartmengts smoke. One of the best outdoor bars in the neighborhood has been infected by the smoking police, I no longer go there. You are not allowed to smoke on a sidewalk or anywheres else unless noted otherwise. I admit I’m addicted to smoking and have not worked for 7 years even though I used to make $100,000 per year. Lucky for me my wife makes a good living and I am stuck getting housing permits for illegal aliens wanting to increase the number of families they can move onto their property.Very recently they outlawed smoking in all parks. Now us smokers are standing on the sidewalks and smoking. We used to find a place that had few people and congregate. Everyone uses sidewalks and now they have to walk past us smokers, Oxygen tanks and all.

[stephenjohnbanker]

“It is happening here in the Los Angeles area of Calabasas.”

I read about this in the L A Times. Even in Malibu, you can smoke :-) I’m surprised at Calabasas though, as I have several friends that live there, and it seemed fairly conservative to me.

[Eastbound]

Puff Patrol. That’s got to be about the most embarrasing job a human being could take. Well, maybe a step up from the Clean Butt Patrol.

[peggybac]

I may be showing my ignorance here, but I thought long ago that if you had siblings ONLY working with the owner of a bar that smoking was permissible in that establishment. Did I dream this up?

[Kimberly GG]

“I am stuck getting housing permits for illegal aliens wanting to increase the number of families they can move onto their property.”

YOU do NOT?

[OneHun]

Harassing, punishing, and overtaxing smokers by the local governments have gone too far.
I’d like to see what these Nazi bureaucrats would do, if all the smokers would stop buying cigarettes for at least 6-8 months, nationwide? Who will they target next for the missing tax money they counted for, and already allocated for some stupid spending? I bet smokers would gain a lot of allies from the next targeted segment of the population. The ‘feel gooders’ and control freaks will not stop until people drove them into the wall.

Some info for smokers:
http://www.smokinglobby.com/
http://www.smokersclubinc.com/

[VR-21]

"Southern Nevada Health District clerk "

I'm a former smoker and I detest the habit, but anyone who would do this for a living is lower than a snake belly.

Are we really the "land of the free" anymore?

[MEGoody]

I hope people beat the crap out of these nazis.

Physical violence because of a ticket? Uh, not a good idea.

[Nahanni]

When people start getting thrown out of their homes because people in adjacent apartments or houses smoke, then we’ve got more problems. Or maybe if children will be taken by social services because parents smoke in a car. It seems farfetched now but it could happen. Who would have thought we’d ever see some of the other insanity going on today? It already has happened.

[Wheee The People]

I hope people beat the crap out of these nazis.

"Physical violence because of a ticket?"

no worries...most smokers would be gasping for breath if they tried anything beyond lifting a burning stick to their lips....

[ichabod1]

Clean Butt Patrol

You speak in jest but I think you're on to something. We need someone to ensure that all restaurant employees wash their hands before returning to work. Perhaps a camera could do the job.

[gidget7]

You think so? How bout they start banning drinking, or having alcohol on your breath anywhere? How bout they start banning candles, incense, and perfumes?? Can’t even burn or use them in your car or at home because it might filter through the walls to an adjoining unit? Heck how bout they start banning forest fires, wild fires and volcano’s because the smoke kills people, and interferes with the breathing of everyone where they occur? How bout, as has been proposed, they start banning barbeque's, they give off greenhouse gases, and bother the neighbors, oh and they put a clause in all those bans to make it appear for the children? How bout they ban knives of all kinds, they are used to stab people?? Why this control freakness could be used to ban just about everything, why stop with cigarettes.

Just so they promote perversion and promiscuity, after all the is important to promote, especially to kids.

sarcasm off/

[gidget7]

One of the biggest problems, and there are a lot of em, that I see is the authroization of health agencies to perform law enforcement duties. That is scary!!!!