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To: curiosity
"Traction control, side curtain airbags, continuously variable transmissions, and on-demand AWD systems are hardly frills."

I consider'em frills. I like standard transmissions. And air bags are themselves frills. If you've got (and use) your seatbelts (which I do), you don't need'em.

216 posted on 09/01/2007 1:35:15 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Wonder Warthog
I like standard transmissions.

So do I, but a modern CVT will give you better mileage and, unless you've got the skills of a professional racer, better acceleration. I'd hardly call that a frill.

I still like a manual despite all that, simply because it's more fun to drive, but that would seem to make the manual a frill, no?

And air bags are themselves frills. If you've got (and use) your seatbelts (which I do), you don't need'em.

I was talking about side curtain bags. They can save your life. Seat belts won't do a thing for you if you're hit from the side.

Don't forget traction control. In the snow, it's a Godsend. Of course, under normal conditions, I turn mine off, but it's worth having for those snow days, especially in a town like Seattle where they don't salt the roads.

Finally, if you think an on-demand AWD system like Haldex is a frill, you really need to go test drive a car with one (preferably with the sport package upgrade that tends to give the car a little oversteer). Go take it on a curvy dirt road, and you'll see it's no frill.

220 posted on 09/01/2007 2:36:40 PM PDT by curiosity
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