[gidget7]

“As a conservative you had a problem last November and you are very likely to have an even bigger problem November 2008.”

That may be, but as a conservative, the problem is the newer laws and policies not the Constitution, which does not allow for depravity. The more we dumb down what is acceptable in society, the less we get from people as far as decency.

[goldstategop]

You will note that I while do not condone depravity, I'm resigned to the need to draw a clear line between the public and private. We may not be able to do much about two men having sex in their own bedroom but we do have it within our power to prevent them them from soliciting or having sex in a public setting. We may not be able to enforce traditional mores in our society in private through the police power but we can uphold public decorum through the same police power to the fullest extent allowed by the law.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[nathanbedford]

That may be, but as a conservative, the problem is the newer laws and policies not the Constitution, which does not allow for depravity. The more we dumb down what is acceptable in society, the less we get from people as far as decency.

Actually, the Constitution does allow depravity if the state or the federal government chooses not to prohibit it. The Supreme Court in the Texas sodomy case when a step further and said that the Constitution prohibits a state from criminalizing depravity-sodomy in private between consulting adults-on privacy grounds.

The question for conservatives I think is what do we do now that the law is not available to enforce "decency" which you say will result in the dumbing down of society?I tried to articulate in my vanity some of the areas which I described as having" higher value"which should still be permitted by the courts to be enforced and which also, fortuitously, politically advantageous.