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1 posted on 08/31/2007 10:09:12 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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ping


2 posted on 08/31/2007 10:18:48 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Today's stolen graphics courtesy of: http://arewelumberjacks.blogspot.com/)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Yet remember what happened when it was vice versa?

As they throw out the roots from under Al Aqsa.

Olmert truly makes me sick at this point.


3 posted on 08/31/2007 10:20:53 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Today's stolen graphics courtesy of: http://arewelumberjacks.blogspot.com/)
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Ping!


5 posted on 08/31/2007 10:23:23 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Hunter and Tancredo in '08! La Raza - the PLO of the Western Hemisphere)
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To: West Coast Conservative

That’d be cool if they found the ark of the covenant under there and then everybody got melted.


6 posted on 08/31/2007 10:30:04 AM PDT by Virulas (I am the lion of the courtroom!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Archaeologists: Muslim dig damaged Temple wall

Muslim mucking things up.
Now there's a real press-shocker!
(/SARC)
7 posted on 08/31/2007 10:32:00 AM PDT by VOA
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To: West Coast Conservative
Lest we forget that the Muslim world is LIEING to us by saying that the Dome of the Rock is the third holiest site in Islam.

This myth of Jerusalem as Islam"s third holiest city based upon the mythical ascension of Mohammed from Al-Aksa to Heaven has grown exponentially in the recent telling since 1967. When you tell a Big Lie and repeat it often, it achieves credibility and legs of its own. In Islam, telling a lie to infidels for the sake of enlarging your own believers" faith or defeating the infidel is acceptable, even desirable.

The streets of Jerusalem and the Holy Jewish Temple were walked upon by Jewish Kings and Prophets long before the 7th century C.E. when a man named Mohammed had a vision that he was the last chosen prophet of G-d, the G-d they called Allah. Mohammed was driven out of Mecca by the Arab community and fled to Medina which had three Jewish tribes. Mohammed offered himself to the Jews as G-d"s (Allah) final Prophet.

For 19 months Mohammed offered his "quibla" (direction of his prayers) toward Jerusalem as a "confidence-building gesture", until the Jews refused to believe his claims and totally rejected him. Then Mohammed gathered the pagan desert tribes under his visionary image.

Mohammed used the trick of a temporary truce (permitted in Islam) to make a treaty called the Hudaibiya Treaty with the Jewish Koraish tribe. But, in 628 C.E. at the Khaidar Oasis, Mohammed killed them. Mohammed never again mentioned the word Jerusalem in his compilation of Islam"s holy book, the Koran and directed his "quibla" (prayers) to Mecca. If a Muslim happened to visit or pass through Jerusalem, it was called a "ziyara" unlike the holy pilgrimage to Mecca which was called by the honorific "Haj". A mandated visit to Mecca allowed the Muslim pilgrim to add Haj to his name.

For Mohammed, Jerusalem was a despised place of the Jews and had no place in his vision for his Islamic religion. It was as if he could not excise the Jewish essence from holy Jewish City of Jerusalem, although it is said that he believed that the Last Judgment of man would issue from Jerusalem.

Approximately 60 years after Mohammed"s death, the Dome of the Rock was built by Khaliph Abd El Malik of Syria in a first effort to turn Muslim prayers toward his edifice. He wanted to demonstrate Islam"s superiority over the Christians and Jews they had driven from Jerusalem. This was primarily for political purposes, not necessarily religious. El Malik failed in his bid to become the replacement for Mohammed and the Muslims continued to direct their "quibla" (direction of prayers) toward Mecca and the revered Kaba"a stone monolith. The El-Aksa Mosque was built 20 years after the Dome of the Rock or 80 years after Mohammed died.

So how is it possible that Mohammed's vision or flight to heaven recored in the Koran, could happen at a mosque not yet even built.

Early Islamic scholars, with no particular political agenda, interpreted Mohammed"s dream flight to El-Aksa * (lit. the furthest place) was to a Islamic heavenly place where the purest and most holy mosque which would be in the courtyard of Allah. That, indeed, would be the "furthest place" or "El Aksa". The revised myth of today names the earthly Al-Aksa Mosque built by Khaliph El Malik on the site of the Jewish Temple as the basis of the Muslim claim to the Temple Mount. This is substantially different than that of the early non-political scholars of Islam. Serious Islamic scholars viewed the tale as merely a folk story. (Note! Keep in mind that there was no El-Aksa Mosque on the Temple Mount until 80 years after Mohammed"s death.)

8 posted on 08/31/2007 11:05:58 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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9 posted on 08/31/2007 11:30:41 AM PDT by SJackson (isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
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To: West Coast Conservative
"The work, which is being carried out with the approval of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert....."

You don't have to read further to know it is a disaster.

12 posted on 08/31/2007 11:49:42 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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