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To: oblomov; UCFRoadWarrior
I find the disengenuousness in you Paulettes laughable. First you write :"I have only heard him claim to be a constitutionalist, not a conservative.".

So, Paul is to be taken as never claiming to be a conservative.

You then write: "Ah yes, the hoary old myth of dumb conservatives getting led astray by packaging and labels. Are you sure you are a conservative? The GOP as a whole does not represent my values, and the typical GOP officeholder is indistinguishable to me from most Democrats. OTOH, nearly all of the handful of politicians I do like are Republican."

Now, while RP doesn't consider himself a conservative, you question my conservative credentials since I question his. You also note that the GOP doesn't represent your values because they're indistinguishable from Democrats. The clear implication here is that you're the conservative; not me, not the GOP. Yet RP isn't but you support him wholeheartedly. It's either that or, RP isn't a conservative, neither are you and that's why you support him, and the GOP doesn't represent your values because they align with RP; not conservativism. Which is it?

UCFRoadWarrior writes: "As I look into Paul’s background, more and more his critics look like whiny liberals. Also, I think the real fear they have of Paul is not his stance on Iraq, but his opposition to Globalism, NAFTA, big government....all anathema to the Global-Socialist liberals that have taken over the GOP.

Its funny that Paul’s opponents label him a “liberal”. His critics have no understanding of what a conservative really is

Again, here's another RP supporter who considers RP as being a conservative, yet we non-supportes misguidedly label him 'liberal'. Two supporters now, who characterize him as 'conservative' yet you state he himself considers he's a constitutionalist. Which is it? Or is it neither, is he a 'libertarian', and is he/are you unwilling to properly acknowledge your beliefs, and find it necessary to mischaracterize others in order to maintain your sham?

25 posted on 08/31/2007 7:14:04 AM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: bcsco
Now, while RP doesn't consider himself a conservative, you question my conservative credentials since I question his.

I learned many years ago that libertarians believe they are the "true" constitutionalists and that they know what a "true" conservative is. They believe themselves to be "pure" and uncompromised.

Liberals are motivated by emotion.

Libertarians are motivated by arrogance.

29 posted on 08/31/2007 7:22:30 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: bcsco

>>Yet RP isn’t but you support him wholeheartedly

No, I do not support him wholeheartedly. My support is very much contingent and conditional. This said, your assumption that I agree with everything Paul stands for seems a bit silly, huh?


34 posted on 08/31/2007 7:29:23 AM PDT by oblomov
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