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To: sauropod; jmeagan
I don't have a lot to add to jmeagan's post at #103, so I'm just going to confine this to a couple of points.

There is no justification for such acts, just as there was no justification for both attacks on the WTC and other places.

No one is saying there is, including Dr. Paul.

Why all the trashing of cars etc. last year by the Muslim youths? What has France occupied lately?

As I recall, that didn't have much to do with Islam, although some people tried to portray it that way. I'd have to look up my sources again, though. It's been awhile.

There are countless other examples and American “occupation” of other countries does not begin to explain it. To insist that and that alone is the reason for Islamist actions is to severly underestimate the enemy. Paul and Scheuer do a disservice to the country by putting that forward as the sole reason.

They aren't claiming that's the sole reason. It's just that that was the subject under discussion when Giuliani made his attack, so that's what they responded to.

It's interesting to note that one of the people who agrees with Dr. Paul on this is Paul Wolfowitz. Check it out:

During his interview with Vanity Fair in early May, Wolfowitz cited several payoffs from the war, including removing the need for American forces in Saudi Arabia.

Those troops were sent to protect the desert kingdom against Saddam, whose forces invaded Kuwait in 1990. But their presence in the country that is home to Islam's holiest sites enraged many Muslims, including al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.

Within two weeks of the fall of Baghdad, the United States announced it was removing most of its 5,000 troops from Saudi Arabia.

"Their presence there over the last 12 years has been a source of enormous difficulty for a friendly government," Wolfowitz said. "It's been a huge recruiting device for al-Qaeda."


105 posted on 09/01/2007 8:59:57 PM PDT by JTN (‘We achieve much more in peace than…unconstitutional, undeclared wars’ - Dr. Paul)
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To: JTN; Extremely Extreme Extremist; Calvinist_Dark_Lord
"Their presence there over the last 12 years has been a source of enormous difficulty for a friendly government," Wolfowitz said. "It's been a huge recruiting device for al-Qaeda."

Ohmigod! Another dirty hippie. He might even vote for Ron Paul!

LOL.

Seriously, I don't see how people don't grasp how provocative our presence around these shrines or anything Saudi really is. That's a good quote you found.
106 posted on 09/03/2007 1:10:36 PM PDT by George W. Bush ("I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important.")
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