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Investment homes are major part of defaults
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/investment-homes-make-up-major/story.aspx?guid=%7BA7BAF583%2DA ^ | 8-30-07 | Ruth Mantell,

Posted on 08/30/2007 7:53:13 AM PDT by Hydroshock

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- Mortgages for investment properties constitute a major chunk of defaults in four states with the fastest-rising rates of seriously delinquent loans, according to data released Thursday by the Mortgage Bankers Association.

Mortgages on non-owner occupied properties in Nevada accounted for 32% of prime mortgage defaults as of June 30 as well as for 24% of subprime loan defaults, the MBA said. In the rest of the country, non-owner occupied homes accounted for 13% of prime defaults and 11% of subprime defaults. "Defaults are on the rise in most parts of the country, but it should be recognized that it is not always the case of a homeowner losing his or her home," said Doug Duncan, the MBA's chief economist,. Rather, it's "often the case of an investor gambling on a continued increase in home values and losing that gamble," Duncan said in a statement.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
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1 posted on 08/30/2007 7:53:15 AM PDT by Hydroshock
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To: Hydroshock

not your ordinary real estate investors pushing prices higher....


2 posted on 08/30/2007 7:54:03 AM PDT by television is just wrong (deport all illegal aliens NOW. Put all AMERICANS TO WORK FIRST. END WELFARE.i)
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To: Hydroshock

Shows a lot of investment funds out there that could be put to good use if there were something worth investing in.


3 posted on 08/30/2007 7:56:46 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: Hydroshock

The market will take care of itself. Government STAY OUT!


4 posted on 08/30/2007 7:58:20 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: television is just wrong

My wife and I were watch FLip That House this weekend. SHe commented, “Yeah in 2006 it is flip that house for that guy (the house flipper on TV), in 2008 it will be flip that burger.”


5 posted on 08/30/2007 7:58:55 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Hydroshock

“Investment homes” is an oxymoron.


6 posted on 08/30/2007 8:00:32 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Gravity! It's not just a good idea, it's the law!)
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To: Don Corleone

>> The market will take care of itself. Government STAY OUT!

Amen, brother.


7 posted on 08/30/2007 8:02:01 AM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: Tax-chick

>> “Investment homes” is an oxymoron.

True, that.

Another problem: with many asset classes, not just real estate, “investment” has become a euphemism for what is really “speculation”.


8 posted on 08/30/2007 8:04:19 AM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: Nervous Tick

Very true, though at many times, “investment homes” were and have been valid investments and not wild speculations. In this last cycle, obviously in hindsight they were not; but even at the time, it was clear that these so-called investments were being bought on risky mortgages for nearly double what I call the “rent vs buy indifference point” and thus made no sense whatsoever.


9 posted on 08/30/2007 8:08:09 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (When Bubba lies, the finger flies!)
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To: Nervous Tick
“investment” has become a euphemism for what is really “speculation”.

Yes, that's true. Sloppy use of language!

My parents invested in rental houses for many years. Their first property was a 5-unit apartment building in Southern California, and my brother and I had to talk to the tenants for my parents, because all the renters were Spanish-speaking.

10 posted on 08/30/2007 8:12:19 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Gravity! It's not just a good idea, it's the law!)
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To: Hydroshock

exactly.


11 posted on 08/30/2007 8:14:23 AM PDT by television is just wrong (deport all illegal aliens NOW. Put all AMERICANS TO WORK FIRST. END WELFARE.i)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

>> at many times, “investment homes” were and have been valid investments and not wild speculations

Yep.

The definition I use (because it has worked for me in the past): If I have MY money in it, it’s an investment. If you have YOUR money in it, it’s more than likely speculation.

;-)


12 posted on 08/30/2007 8:15:08 AM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: Don Corleone
The market will take care of itself. Government STAY OUT!

Once more only louder...

13 posted on 08/30/2007 8:21:16 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
Many of the "investment homes" were bought by people who had recently refinanced their own homes, or purchased a new one and were told by their mortgage broker "well you still have more credit, you should buy another house and rent it". With no-doc loans, no income verification was needed, especially when the "investor" certified that the new home was being purchased as their personal residence.

The result now is that the investment homes are being foreclosed on, the banks are buying the properties back themselves becuse there are no bidders at the sale, and often the lenders are sending the borrower a 1099 for the entire mortgage balance. Worse still, many borrowers pulled the equity from their homes in order to buy these "investment properties", and are now stuck with huge mortgage payments which they can't afford.

14 posted on 08/30/2007 8:28:06 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: PUGACHEV

All true. However the overwhelming number of so-called investment homes NEVER made sense on either a rental- cashflow basis or on any one of several traditional metrics used to gauge the potential profitability of investment real estate.


15 posted on 08/30/2007 8:36:20 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (When Bubba lies, the finger flies!)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
Yes, that’s right, but the buyers expected to flip the investment homes in a few months or a year for a large profit. In my area, at least, this was not too unreasonable if one believed (unreasonably) that the wild appreciation of real estate that occurred in 2003-2005 was going to continue — alas, timing is everything. Oddly, the resale market cooled long before easy mortgage money dried up, so the “investors” would address the negative cash-flow from the rental by refinancing their own property, again and again.
16 posted on 08/30/2007 8:47:27 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: television is just wrong

The MSM refusing to indicate SPECTULATORS rather than investors are driving the issue.

Also there was a FR article posted which stated the illegals who are self deporting are refinancing out the equity and then skipping town.


17 posted on 08/30/2007 9:01:09 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: RightWhale

Good thought. The fund would need enough capitol to both purchase the excess housing inventory and absorb the holding costs until the next upsurge in home purchases

The holding costs would have to be factored into the investment cost but it still might be a classic buy low sell high situation.


18 posted on 08/30/2007 9:31:47 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

One of the problems is that people with significant assets are allowed to walk off from their mortgages with minimum consequences.


19 posted on 08/30/2007 3:08:10 PM PDT by Eleven Bravo 6 319thID
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To: Tax-chick

At this time in the US it is ,, however real estate has been a really good vehicle for wealth creation ,, I have duplexes located near a college that bring in double the mortgage (15 year) cost after maint and taxes.


20 posted on 08/30/2007 4:04:18 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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