Ban Islam?

netWMD ^ | 8/29/2007 | by Daniel Pipes

[weatherwax]

You are right, and I’m mc5cents, I’m glad someone has seen that Islamism is a military/political movement, using a religion as a cover. And the stupid leftie liberals of the West are falling for it, hook line and sinker.

[ElectricStrawberry]

Red herring alert.

Your pathetic attempts at insults aside, other countries being Islamic has nothing to do with the affect of banning Islam inside the United States. It’s 2 completely different situations....incomparable. Go ahead and ban Islam in Iraq and see what happens.

Talk about “rational arguments” or the lack thereof.

[ElectricStrawberry]

Gotta look 400+ years into the past.....where the current Islam is stuck and needs to reform its way out of.

Or should I just say “Wrong.”?

[ElectricStrawberry]

Wait....lemme run along to dig up some of the Christian faithful claiming to want Christian tenets put into the Constitution. I’m sure you’d agree with THOSE.

Hint: Anything having to do with marriage should never be put in the Constitution....not ever...not the purpose of the Constitution.

Expressing the desire and having even one-step towards that desire are obviously 2 different things......the expression part being Constitutionally protected.

You plan on banning all expression too?

[ElectricStrawberry]

Such small world thinking...

Problem: Specific muslims
Solution: Ban Islam.
Affect: Specific muslims no longer a problem.

Makes me wonder when the auto de fe is so I can stock up on weapons.

[EBH]

Christian tenets put into the Constitution. I’m sure you’d agree with THOSE.

Not quite either. Red Herring and bait. Hope you enjoyed your weekend.

[ElectricStrawberry]

I quite enjoyed my weekend of fishing and outright debauchery. Especially enjoyed my right to choose a religion as I see fit....that is, until domestic enemies of the Constitution decide my choice of a religion, or lack thereof, is a threat too and try to ban me.

[Little Ray]

Tell ya what.
When “Islam” starts toleratin’ conversions from Islam to other religions, allows Christian churches to be built in Islamic nations, allows non-Muslims to visit Mecca, acknowledges Israel’s right to exist, and stops tryin’ to destroy all evidence of Jewish presence on the Temple Mound,
MAYBE then we’ll tolerate Islam.
Until then, banning Islam, moderate or otherwise, is the way to go.

[papertyger]

Your pathetic attempts at insults aside, other countries being Islamic has nothing to do with the affect of banning Islam inside the United States.

What insult? I was being descriptive.

When I was a kid, before politcal correctness, we used to play "army." You know, a bunch of little boys running around with "gun fingers" pretending to shoot each other.

Well, there was always at least one little...fellow...that would scream "you missed," even if you had your finger in his ear when you said "bang."

You are what happens when that little...boy grows up.

You see you can't have it both ways. Either mohammedenism is fungible as far as religions go, or it is not. If it is, then according to your line of thinking, all the adherents of other religions would be raising terrorists to combat the mohammenden countries where other faiths are banned. If it is not like other religions, and raising terrorists is unique to islam, then they are more akin to yelling "fire" in a crowded theater and merit no First Ammendment protections.

Child analogies are appropriate for you. Your shallow knowledge of religions gives you the same confidence as a child who announces with self-satisfaction, "you can't do math with letters," because he has no clue about the concepts of Algebra.

No one is going to force you to learn that life is more subtle than you imagine, but they may force you to accept it.

[papertyger]

Gotta look 400+ years into the past.....where the current Islam is stuck and needs to reform its way out of.

Huh? It's a straightforward question.

You can't reform islam and have it be islam. Violence and chauvanism is codified into islam, not a deviation from it.

You keep trying to follow the "diversity" rational that "a bear is the same as a beaver" when anyone with a brain knows that is willful stupidity for the sake of a philosophy.

[GeronL]

Islam is a cult. If leaving it gets a death sentence, its a cult.

[justDave]

No banning religions would be against the founding fathers but, Islam is not a religion. It is for lack of a better word a cult which kills all that wish to leave. It is a way of life which has never known peace or love only hate and war. For this alone it should fall under the new hate crimes passed and be banned. It must be understood that although some Muslim's are peaceful they are Islam’s sheep and not, nor can they, be true believers of Islam and are to be killed as well, when the time comes.

[ElectricStrawberry]

Thanks for your opinion. Whatever religion YOU are in is a “cult” to me....yet I accept your right to worship your way.

Islam is a religion in the United States, protected in the United States by the United States Constitution....just like Satanism...just like Wicca...just like my choice to be a non-religious non-theistic heathen is protected.....until bigots Constitutionally ban my non-theism.

If a muslim in the United States quits his religion and converts to any other religion or none at all, he/she can do so freely....in the United States. If he/she is killed for it, the murderer is arrested, tried, and, if found guilty, put in jail.

What they do in the rest of the world concerning conversion is irrelevant to the protections of the Constitution.