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Ban Islam?
netWMD ^ | 8/29/2007 | by Daniel Pipes

Posted on 08/29/2007 11:24:07 AM PDT by forty_years

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1 posted on 08/29/2007 11:24:09 AM PDT by forty_years
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Moderate Islam is OK? Can your body tolerate moderate amounts of cyanide?


2 posted on 08/29/2007 11:32:13 AM PDT by Battle of Tours
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Tolerate moderate Islam, but eradicate its radical variants.

How can a religion whose very scriptures demand deception and mass murder be considered "moderate"?

3 posted on 08/29/2007 11:33:02 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Afghan protest - "Death to Dog Washers!")
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Kind of funny that we feel so superior to our middle-ages ancestors but on this on issue they are way, way ahead of us.


4 posted on 08/29/2007 11:34:48 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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I think the problem is that Western nations have already tolerated moderate islam and it has morphed into the monster that it is today. Muslims see tolerance as weakness, and to them weakness must be eradicated.
5 posted on 08/29/2007 11:39:26 AM PDT by Tully Pettigrew 1
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Enjoying moderate Islam is like enjoying the scenes in Mars Attacks where the friendly little critters fry everyone in sight.

"We come in peace. We come in peace."

One thing is certain about Koran-reading muslims. If they aren't strapping plastics explosives around their or their young child's stomach they're contributing to those that do.

6 posted on 08/29/2007 11:42:03 AM PDT by fweingart
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To: forty_years

I might have listened to Mr. Pipe’s proposal on 9/10/2001.
This is war; there can be no “moderation”.


7 posted on 08/29/2007 11:44:01 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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Imo if we can ban mormons from having multiple celestial wives, which was an integral part of their religion.. We can ban Islam if we want.

Also I’ve had this argument with head in sand libertarians; you can’t allow people to use freedoms, as part of a plan to take away freedoms. For example letting communists in the government agencies organize together because of ‘freedom of association’ is suicidal. I think you abdicate any freedom, when you are using that freedom as part of a plan to take away the freedom in the future.

Islam wants to spread, but we all know they will take away freedom of religion once they have enough strength. Thats a big difference between them and the other religions I have seen. Eg.. Hindhus I don’t get the feeling that if Hindhus became a majority they would take away freedom of religion.


8 posted on 08/29/2007 11:45:07 AM PDT by ran20
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More practical and focused would be to reduce the threats of jihad and Shariah by banning Islamist interpretations of the Koran, as well as Islamism and Islamists.

This was written by Pipes?????

The point he's trying to make is rather fanciful considering "Islamist interpretations" are indistinquishable from a "normative reading."

Anyone picking up a Koran on a desert island two hundred years in the future could easily develop into an "Islamist" and start the whole conflict over again.

9 posted on 08/29/2007 11:45:56 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: Battle of Tours

Yes, almonds are quite tasty.


10 posted on 08/29/2007 11:48:38 AM PDT by KevinGray
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The Muhammadan Death Cult has conquered much of the world, and continues to hack it’s way through the remaining parts.

Even now it has penetrated into the heart of the remaining fortresses of civilization.

At some level we need to start discussing the fact that Islam is not just another form of faith. It is like the Borg, there is no “peaceful coexistence”.


11 posted on 08/29/2007 11:50:13 AM PDT by ansel12 (Paranoia, conspiracy, superiority, otherness, pod people "The Invasion" 2007 imdb)
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Imo if we can ban mormons from having multiple celestial wives, which was an integral part of their religion.. We can ban Islam if we want.

The Constitution is NOT a suicide pact.

12 posted on 08/29/2007 11:51:21 AM PDT by papertyger
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Kind of funny that we feel so superior to our middle-ages ancestors but on this on issue they are way, way ahead of us.

Right. They were not neutered by the poison that is multiculturalism, tolerance, and political correctness.

13 posted on 08/29/2007 11:55:26 AM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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At some level we need to start discussing the fact that Islam is not just another form of faith. It is like the Borg, there is no “peaceful coexistence”.

The discussion has already been joined: it's just not acceptable...yet.

14 posted on 08/29/2007 11:59:53 AM PDT by papertyger
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Non muslum nations need only apply Sharia law principles to their own muslum population.

Charge them a Dhimmi tax.

Behead muslums for proselitizing.

Make Halel butchering practices illegal (because these practices are offensive to non muslums).

Make possession of the koran illegal, (as is possession of a Bible is in Saudi Arabia).

Death for any one who converts to islum.

Make beheading muslums a pay per view event.

Turn a blind eye to any kidnapping, rape, forced marriage, forced conversion, enslavement, and so on of any muslum woman that a non muslum can capture.

Allow non muslim men to have one non muslum wife, but any number of muslum concubines (slaves).

Forbid muslum women from driving or going out in public without wearing a burka and the accompaniment of a male muslim family member.

And so on.

15 posted on 08/29/2007 12:02:48 PM PDT by joshhiggins (O you who believe! do not take the MUSLIMS for friends)
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Ban the Koran? That would just make more people read it. Refusing to capitulate to Islamists - yes. How weird this was championed by a gay right-winger Daddy Warbucks look-alike (who was killed not by wacko Islamists but by a wacko animal rights activists).


16 posted on 08/29/2007 12:02:51 PM PDT by Battle of Tours
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I don’t want our government in the business of banning religions. Strangely enough, the founding fathers agree with me.


17 posted on 08/29/2007 12:11:14 PM PDT by mysterio
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eradicate its radical variants

...along with its radical varmints.

18 posted on 08/29/2007 12:19:09 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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“Tolerate moderate Islam..”

Should we also tolerate moderate AIDS or cancer?


19 posted on 08/29/2007 12:19:10 PM PDT by 353FMG (Government is the opiate of the people.)
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A British member of Parliament, Boris Johnson, pointed out in 2005 that passing a Racial and Religious Hatred Bill "must mean banning the reading — in public or private — of a great many passages of the Koran itself."

Reading some parts of the Bible aloud is now a hate crime in Canada. Does this apply to the Koran as well?

20 posted on 08/29/2007 12:25:41 PM PDT by AZLiberty (President Fred -- I like the sound of it.)
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